The original content of this blog entry described the appeal rules as of 2013 and was based on a communication from the USTA at that time and thus quite dated now. My understanding is the appeal rules have changed and so what was written no longer applies. Please do not base any assumptions or expectations on what appeals may be granted based on what you'd read here before. Please see this more recent article on what the rules are based on the 2019 USTA League regulations.
I would like your option on USTA's new survey re an alternate scoring method.
ReplyDeleteSee my latest blog entry. http://computerratings.blogspot.com/2013/12/usta-league-points-per-position-survey.html
DeleteLet's say that a person played in a season before 2013. Can they now try to appeal and have these new rules apply to them?
ReplyDeleteJavier, I believe I have seen that someone with a 2012 year-end rating was able to use these new appeal rules.
DeleteAs I understand it...the new rule is if you are 65 years old you will not be bumped up to 4.0 if you now play 3.5. My problem is I appealed my 4.0 rating in the middle of 2013 and got it moved to 3.5. I am now being told that because I appealed my rating to 3.5 I can be moved back up to 4.0 because I played in a 3.5 league in Jan 2014. I don't think this is right. If I was given a 3.5 rating by appeal I should be able to stay at that rating because I am over 65 years old. If not, why did I get the appeal if I was good enough to be a 4.0.
ReplyDeleteThis is correct as I understand the new rule.
DeleteYes, there is a provision for players 65 and older to not be bumped up, but this doesn't apply to players that appeal down.
However, your appeal down was granted because while your rating was into the range for a 4.0, it was close enough to the threshold and you'd played few enough matches that the USTA was willing to say that your rating may be slightly off and they are willing to let you appeal down.
Now, if you go out and play well enough that your rating gets back into the range for a 4.0, your match results are basically saying that indeed you were a 4.0 and the rating you appealed from was actually accurate enough. So rather than allow you to stay at your (incorrectly in their eyes) appealed down rating, you are bumped back up.
Is there a way to appeal a bumped up rating if you played more than 10 matches?
ReplyDeleteI am not aware of any way to auto-appeal if you've played more than 10 matches. The USTA considers your rating to be accurate if you've played that many matches.
DeleteYou would likely have to file an appeal manually and these are typically only considered in cases where there is or has been a medical issue that permanently hampers the player from playing at the same level as before.
All that said, if you are looking to appeal an early start bump, I am not 100% certain that the rules I documented above apply in this case. It is possible appeals will be granted regardless of the number of matches played.
If you want to be bumped back down, it doesn't hurt to try to auto-appeal down. The worst that will happen is it tells you you can't or are close enough to do so.
Ok I just turned 65yrs old in October this year. I had a great year in 4.0 going to Nationals. If my rating goes up to 4.5 at end of year ratings can I stay at 4.0 since I was 65yrs old before ratings came out?
DeleteMy understanding is that because you are 65, you won't be bumped up to 4.5 in the year-end ratings even if your rating justifies it. The 65 & over clause kicks in and you simply stay a 4.0.
DeleteI had never played USTA leagues until summer, 2013. I self-rated as a 3.5 and played in 40+ and 55+ 7.5 combo leagues and a 65+ 3.5 league making it to States on all 3 teams. For 2014 my rating (3.5s) remained unchanged. I played more than 10 matches in 2014 on a number of different teams (55+ 3.5, 65+ combo, 55+ combo, 40+ combo, 40+ 7.0 mixed, 18+ 7.0 mixed, 65+ 3.5 mens and 65+ 4.0 mens) with good success in all but the 65+ 4.0 mens league.
ReplyDeleteThe rankings that just came out have me at 4.0 and my auto-appeal was denied with "out of appeal range" as the reason. Since I am 67 it appears that the 65+ policy may not apply since I have never (until now) had a USTA computer rating. Does this sound right?
I think this does sound right. The 65+ rules keep you from going up from a published rating, but a self-rating is not considered a published rating.
DeleteYour 2013 leagues didn't count towards your rating (Combo doesn't count and I believe 65+ didn't count in 2013) so you kept your "S". Then you likely played enough matches that you weren't eligible to appeal (if you play 10 or more you aren't eligible).
I was 4.5 in 2012. My end of year rating in 2012 went down to 4.0. My end of year rating in 2013 and 2014 was 4.0. My question is if my end of year rating in 2015 was 4.5 could I appeal down because my last 3yrs of end of year rating was in the level of 4.0?
ReplyDeleteOk I just read the 60yr old new rule that says if your last 3 end of year ratings are in same level without appeal you can automatically appeal. But then it says if I go to Sectionals I can't appeal. So going to Sectionals trumps the new 60yr old rule?
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ReplyDeleteI am currently a 4.0 and have played in 3 matches for spring. If my dynamic rating at end of year is between 3.50 and 3.60, will my auto appeal be granted (to go back to 3.5)?
ReplyDeleteIf I played in Div 1 College and technically should be a 4.0 in 1977-82 and have been playing 3.5 for the last 5 years trying to get back to the 4.0 level (self elected to have my rating appealed down initially and am now trying to be a 4.0 again) can I appeal to be a 4.0 if my rating is a 3.40 if I used to be a 4.0 and technically if I self rated I should be one since I played in college>)
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