Thursday, October 24, 2019

USTA PNW weighs in on the new 40 & Over 1 singles / 3 doubles format - National exhibits bad math/statistics

I just received a communication from my League Coordinator regarding the format change for the 40 & Over league to use a 4-court 1 singles and 3 doubles format.

The gist of the communication is that the 4-court format is confirmed as being used in the Pacific Northwest section for 2020 leagues.  But it also provided a link to an FAQ that was prepared answering a number of questions.

Please do read the full FAQ if you are interested, but here are a few highlights.

First, a statement from National on why the change was provided.  Here that is:
Background: The regulation proposal 1.04A from the FL Section for the 40 & Over League “team match” championship format of one singles match and four doubles matches was tabled to gather further data. For the past 5 years, players have been surveyed as to the preferred 40 & Over League “team match” format. In the 2018 player survey, players were asked if they preferred 2S/3D or 1S/4D for this league and it revealed that 60% preferred 1S/4D. This survey did not offer the 1S/3D option. In April 2019, a survey was sent to players age 39 and over, asking which “team match” championship format they preferred, and results showed 25% for 1S/4D; 26% for 1S/3D; 39% for 2S/3D; ie. greater than 50% preferred only one singles match.  In May 2019, League program providers and volunteers were surveyed with 58% preferring 1S/3D. Section League Coordinators were asked their choice at the May 2019 Joint Staff meeting. Two SLCs preferred 2S/3D, while all others preferred 1S/3D.

Summary: With convincing input received from players, providers, and Section League Coordinators in favor of one singles match, we’ve learned that it’s time to consider a change in the 40 & Over League “team match” championship format. This will address the majority of our players’ preference for a one singles “team match” championship format and the challenges with limited court availability for many facilities, the magnitude of league offerings, and the complaints that teams have difficulty in recruiting singles players. The 40 & Over League program is the second largest program and represents just over 25% of the total participation this year. Improving the player experience for this population is critical to the continued success and growth of this program.
So there we have the official explanation of why the change was made.

I do find it interesting that of the three formats considered, the one that had by far the highest percentage, 2S/3D, at 39%, is the one not chosen.  Instead, they elected to effectively add together the percentages of the two other options since they were both offering one singles court and make the conclusion that most people wanted just one singles court.

The flaw in this logic is that while yes, the 1S/3D and 1S/4D both offer just one singles court and together had 51% preferring them, that isn't necessarily sound use of statistics.  It is simply not sound statistics to add together the results of two separate survey questions that themselves are composite questions, and conclude the common piece of the two questions is the reason everyone chose those options.  It is entirely possible that players chose one of those options not because of 1S, but for another reason.

For example:
  • Someone may have voted for 1S/4D because it would get 9 players in a match and explicitly didn't vote for 1S/3D because it would get just 7 in a match, so combining the options is not what they would have wanted.  Their second choice would have been 2S/3D as it gets 8 players in a match.
  • Someone may have voted for 1S/3D just because it was 4 courts, not because of 1S, and may have actually preferred a 2S/2D option for 4 courts, but that wasn't an option.  Had it been offered as an option, the survey would have been more equitable/sound rounding out the options, and the responses for 2S/2D and 2S/3D could be combined as both wanting two singles courts and very well been higher than the combined one singles options.
  • The majority of 40+ players already play doubles primarily, just 25% of players in a 2D/3D format are playing singles, so any survey of this player base is naturally going to be biased towards more doubles courts.  Then offer multiple options that have just one singles court and only one option that is has two singles and there is no way the two singles courts was going to have more support than the sum of the one singles options.  Not taking this into account in interpreting the results is a major shortcoming.

So saying that over 50% prefer one singles court is not a conclusion one can or should make based on the survey they did and its results.  For the two reasons I highlight above and perhaps others, it is entirely possible and likely that the number that actually prefer one singles court is well below 50%.

[added after initial post] If one were to apply the same bad logic the USTA did though, we should add together the 25% and 39% to show that 64% of players prefer five courts, and thus one of 2S/3D or 1S/4D should have been chosen.  Yet this wasn't done and we get the option, 1S/3D, that arguably has the least support.

In my opinion, the USTA has exhibited a pretty bad grasp of statistics and surveys in how they elected to perform and interpret the results of this survey.  I don't know that this is the case, but it almost feels like they did the survey and then worked to find a way to come to the conclusion they wanted.

Note that with nearly 200 responses, the survey I did simply asking if people prefer the old 2S/3D format or the new 1S/3D format overwhelming said the old 2S/3D format is preferred with 83% in support of it as of my writing this.

The other odd thing is that the three options together add up to 90% and not 100%.  Sure, some people may have abstained from answering this question, but the numbers not adding up makes one go hmmm.

Getting back to the PNW FAQ, it goes on to discuss a few other things that I raised as issues in my analysis of the rules changes:
  • Team match winners - The 4-court format can end in 2-2 ties, and while there are tie-breakers, PNW admits they won't break all ties and it says they are working on filling the gaps.  Kudos to PNW for working to address what National did not.
  • Singles opportunities - PNW acknowledges that opportunities for those over 40 to play singles is cut in half, and says they will work to find and promote other opportunities such as Flex leagues and tournaments.
  • Plus leagues - PNW also acknowledges the impact on plus leagues, especially with the change to only allow one plus player in 4-court matches.  They agree it is an issue on the opportunities for 4.5s to play singles and say they will work to do away with plus leagues in the future and offer an Open level for 5.0s and above in the future.

What do you think?  What are you hearing from your section regarding the change?  Will your local leagues follow this format and are steps being taken to mitigate the negatives that National did not address?

8 comments:

  1. I was going to ask you if any new developments on the tiebreaks for 2-2 matches. I guess they're still working on it. That's good PNW actually realized that. But seriously, who's in charge of some of these things? The 3rd tiebreak is % of games won, which is exactly the same thing as games lost if games lost is equal.

    My district(Iowa) doesn't have leagues like flex leagues or able to support 40+ 5.0(barely 18+ 5.0, which doesn't always happen). It's too bad only 7 players are needed/match now; but especially only 1 plus player can play at a time now.

    A few people complain along with faulty statistics, and we have to have some new weird format, sigh. Though I wonder if many people actually complained about this initially. Also, I doubt if the # of courts is really an issue, which I suspect isn't in most districts/sections. The difference between using 4 and 5 courts is quite minimal. And if a lag court is necessary, so be it. But if it is an issue in particular districts, then they can just play 3-4 courts/match during their regular seasons. This already happens for some leagues. But, then at sectionals and/or nationals, they'd obviously have to play 5 courts. Don't make the entire nation change for maybe 20%, if that, of sections that 4 courts might possibly be a better solution.

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    1. All good points. I agree that sections and districts have had the prerogative to run their local leagues with different formats, so let them do that. I suppose the argument is that local leagues can continue to do 2S/3D as well and I'd hope some do that, but it is far easier for sections/districts to just follow the National format.

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    2. I don't know what the usta is trying to do as far as rec adult leagues go. Is it to make money? Probably partially, but this new format won't help there. Is it to get more people into tennis? I'd hope so, but this format won't help there either. Too bad we can't make playing tennis easier and cheaper.

      Not sure if it's easier to follow the National format or not. But, it makes sense to follow it, in preparation for Nationals. What a cluster at Nationals I'd imagine. Hopefully this is just a 1-year plan.

      So, do you know what'd be the minimum # of players for a 40 4.5+ match? Is it 3 now?

      Also, I was wondering this scenario for the 40 4.5+ division. If a team consists of 6 4.0s and 6 4.5s, and only 4 players are available for a particular match, and they're all 4.0s. Given that one of the new rules say no 4.0s can play on #1 singles nor #1 dubbs, would that team just have to forfeit the whole match then? Not that the team with only 4 players would win the match, but this doesn't seem like a great idea.

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    3. Yes, it is odd that they'd do something that could hurt league registrations. Or perhaps they think it won't (I think they are wrong).

      I will research what Nationals would look like with this format soon.

      Good question on minimum players . One could argue it is three, 1S and 1D and if you win 6-0,6-0 on each court you get a tie (that has no tie-breaker at that point). I'll have to try to find out.

      Good question on the 4.0s playing up too.

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  2. How odd would it be to be able to play with 4 players for an 8-player match, but now you need 5 players for a 7-player match? But, I'd imagine it has to be 3, since teams can obviously win tied 2-2.

    I can definitely see more tanking now in matches where courts are defaulted. If you're the opps of the team that is defaulting courts and know you only need 1 game to win the match, you win that 1 game, and could tank the rest of the match.

    I doubt 4.0s could play on either line 1 if their team is short players. But wondering if there might be an exception.

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  3. As captain of the 4.5+ team this year from the PNW making finals in nationals this year, and a 40+ 4.5 singles player myself, I am disappointed. There is a lot of excitement in a 2-2 match coming down to the 2 singles spot in a third set TB to get into a national championship-- which is exactly what happened this year at nationals for PNW. It's a memory that will last a lifetime that won't happen with the new format. -- Bart Borosky, Captain PTC 4.5+ 40 & Over.

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    1. Congrats on making the final!

      I agree it will be strange as you'll have to be doing math during the match and it now becomes can your player not only win his match to get it to 2-2, but win in straight sets 6-4,6-4 and not 6-4,7-6 so you win the tie-breaker.

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  4. https://twitter.com/usta/status/1188459032874569729

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