Showing posts with label tournament. Show all posts
Showing posts with label tournament. Show all posts

Saturday, April 15, 2023

USTA Nationals aren't only in the Fall!

Those that play USTA League are used to the league season culminating in Nationials being held in October and November, but that isn't the only time national events are held.

What is played in the Fall are the "main" leagues, those being 18 & Over Adult and Mixed, 40 & Over Adult and Mixed, and 55 & Over Adult.  But there are other leagues played and some of them end up having their national events in the Spring.

Now, these events are not called "Nationals" for some reason but instead are "National Invitationals".  Here are a few:

The last of these is next weekend, good luck to all those attending.

Additionally, the national events for NTRP tournament players are in the Spring.  This gives tournament players from across the country that excelled in tournament play an opportunity to qualify from their section and test themselves against those from other sections.

Here is/was the NTRP tournament Nationals schedule:

  • March 31 - April 2 
    • 18 & Over Singles in San Diego, CA
    • 40 & Over Singles in Orlando, FL
    • 55 & Over Singles in Surprise, AZ
  • April 14 - 16
    • 18 & Over Doubles in San Diego, CA
    • 40 & Over Doubles in Pelham, AL
    • 55 & Over Doubles in Surprise, AZ
The last of these is this weekend, good luck to all those participating as I write this!

Saturday, April 10, 2021

2021 NTRP Tournament Nationals is happening, ... but is using TennisLink?

A few years ago the USTA introduced a new "Nationals" event, one for NTRP tournament players.  Players qualify from their section based on tournament ranking lists and/or playing in a Sectionals tournament, and then the event is held in the Spring for those players that qualified from the prior year.

The 2020 event was not played due to the suspension of play due to COVID-19, and with few tournaments played in 2020 in many sections, qualifications for the 2021 event were a bit different, some player's who qualified for the 2020 event were given invitations to this year's event, but the 2021 event is on and in fact being played this weekend.

The 18 & Over singles event is being played in Arizona and the 50 & Over singles players are in Orlando.  Next weekend, the 18 & Over doubles are in Arizona and 50 & Over doubles will be in San Diego.

The links I gave above are to the new Serve Tennis (Play Tennis) site, which was launched for 2021, but interestingly the draws are not found there and instead are found on TennisLink.  The USTA appears to be continuing to have challenges with the new site, they even sent an e-mail out a month or two ago apologizing for all the snafus, and they still aren't out of the woods it appears.

I've heard rumblings about lots of issues and TennisLink having to be resuscitated, but elected not to pile on and write about them all, but it appears even NTRP Nationals, an event I would have thought would have been a key use case for the requirements for the new site, has had to resort to using TennisLink for draws.

Never the less, good luck to all the players competing the next two weekends!

Thursday, January 7, 2021

Looking for the Polar Bear tournament in Austin this weekend? It is on TennisLink!

I've written recently about the new Serve/Play Tennis site, tournaments for 2021 being on it and not TennisLink, and the progress of tournaments showing up on the new site.  I wrote all this in an effort to educate my readers on where to find tournaments for 2021, i.e not on TennisLink, and the progress on them showing up on the new site, all in support of enabling players to find, follow, and get out and play the tournaments.

To that end, today's update is that a tournament to be played in Austin this weekend has had its draws published on TennisLink!  Here is the link to the tournament on TennisLink so if you are looking for draws you will find them there.  The Play Tennis site has several links (more below), but the main one is here and while you can navigate and see the players in the tournament, the draws section of the site appears to be empty.

Why did this happen?  I'm not sure.  I saw a Junior tournament from New Years weekend using the new site and this tournament in Austin seems to be the only one on TennisLink for 2021, so it must have been something specific to this tournament.  But I'm guessing it was an issue with the Mixed Doubles events as that is where things look strange on the new site.

The new site link I gave above is to an event named "Level 5 Open - 2021 CATA Polar Bear Adult Doubles", which is the same as the name on TennisLink, and the events listed include various Men's and Women's ages/levels as well as some for Mixed.  The new site lists just Open Mixed and Husband/Wife Mixed while TennisLink. also lists NTRP Mixed for levels 3.0 thru 4.5.

However, on the new site, there are also four tournaments named "Unsanctioned - x.y NTRP Mixed Doubles CATA Polar Bear" for levels 3.0 thru 4.5, so I'm guessing the new site had issues including these in the main tournament and they had to be split off, but then players playing in both were having to register for two, or more, different tournaments and draws would have to show up in separate places, and perhaps other challenges, and they just decided it wasn't working and needed to use TennisLink.

I'm glad they (apparently) got it all working so they can hold the tournament, but it is a bummer TennisLink had to be used.  There are always growing pains with a new site/system so for now we'll chalk this up to that and hope the USTA doesn't have to fall back to using TennisLink again.  But if you are looking for this tournament in Austin, that is where it is!


Saturday, January 2, 2021

Happy New Year! It is 2021, where are the tournaments?

Hallelujah, 2020 is over!  Here is hoping for a much better 2021.

2021 will hopefully mean that USTA tennis gets back to normal, or at least something more like normal.  Some sections are planning to play a normal USTA League schedule, but some areas like mine (PNW) and NorCal and SoCal are postponing the start of play a couple months due to continued state imposed restrictions.

Delays in starting league play does not mean leagues will be canceled again.  I know PNW is willing to be creative to adjust schedules to find a way to get seasons in and be able to advance teams to Sectionals to determine who will go to Nationals.  But like happened last year, at some point too many delays may result in Nationals being canceled.  My guess is that if a few sections are unable to send teams, Nationals will go on, but at some point too many sections are missing and they are called off.  I'd also expect sections to focus on getting the 18 & Over league in as that has the largest number of players and teams, perhaps at the expense of 40 & Over or 55 & Over.  I hope it doesn't come to that, but that course of action would make sense if it does.  I did some analysis of when matches are generally played to get an idea of when things start to become dire.

With the cancellations of leagues and tournaments last year, there is likely some pent up demand for players to find events to play in, and that presents an opportunity for the USTA to offer events to meet that demand.  Players that typically only play USTA League may even be interested in playing USTA Tournaments as a way to get on the court in a competitive environment more.

The good news is the USTA has launched a new site for finding tournaments.  The challenge is it has had some growing pains and tournaments have been slow to on-board.  Since it is now 2021, it makes sense to take a look at how the site is doing.

First, the on-boarding has continued with more tournaments now on the site.  When I checked just over 3 weeks ago, there were 773 tournaments, with 105 of those for adults and the rest predominantly Junior tournaments.  As of the writing of this blog, there are now 1,658, so the total has more than doubled.  For the adults, the total is now up to 226, also more than double.

However, more than half of these Adult tournaments are in just two states, Florida and Texas.  After their combined 114, only Georgia (16), Arkansas (13), Alabama (10), and New Mexico (10) even have double digit Adult tournaments on the Serve Tennis site now.

I'm sure a big part of this is tournaments in those states with COVID-19 restrictions not putting their tournaments on the site yet.  But there are a lot of states across the south without restrictions and many of those seem to not be on-boarding their tournaments yet.  Whether this means they aren't going too hold the tournament, or are just slow to add them to the site, I'm not sure, but I'd hope to see more Adult tournaments listed by now.

What about the distribution of Junior tournaments?  There is more balance, Georgia and Florida both have over 100, and another 10 states all have more than 50 tournaments, so it just appears the focus of the new site has been juniors and not adults so far.

Second, the new Tournaments site had some changes, perhaps in response to some of what I wrote, but more likely feedback from players trying to use it.  Notably, you can select a category, enter a location, and specify a date period before searching now, whereas it used to be just a location was provided.  Just the location is required, the other fields default to all categories and it appears the current month.  I think this change helps, but I'd probably default the date range to at least the next two if not three months as just the current month is pretty short.

After the initial search, the other attributes can be used to filter the results similar to before.  One of those attributes is distance from the location searched on, and previously this had odd gradations of something like 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, or unlimited.  I commented this wasn't terribly useful and suggested 10, 50, 100, 500, and unlimited as the options that made sense.  Well, either someone is reading my blog or I just had a premonition as the options are now 10, 25, 50, 100, and unlimited.  Not exactly what I proposed but close.  I'd still contend something between 100 and unlimited is needed, as someone may be willing to travel a couple hours for a tournament, and right now there is a big gap between <100 and unlimited.

I'd also commented that sorting on date didn't work, and tada, it now works!

Something that is oddly missing is the ability to search by tournament name.  This would seem to be a common way to search as you may know or heard someone talking about the name of the tournament, but so far, this way of searching is not available.

When you find a tournament and navigate to its page, there is now a place to see the players that have entered, which I know many players like to look at, so that is another good step in the right direction.

So Serve Tennis is getting there.  In a way perhaps, COVID restriction in some areas may allow it to get through its growing pains before the number of tournaments grows significantly.

What do you think?  Will you be playing USTA tournaments any time soon?  What are your thoughts on the new site?

Wednesday, December 9, 2020

TennisLink is officially gone ... for tournaments

I wrote last week about the new Play Tennis site for looking for USTA tournaments, observing that TennisLink seemed to be being retired for tournaments starting in 2021, the new site being the sole place players will search for and register for tournaments starting January 1st.

Well, today the USTA sends out an e-mail officially confirming that is the case.  The e-mail has the subject "Your New Destination for Registering for 2021 USTA Tournaments" and provides the same link I did to the new Play Tennis site, with a suggestion to bookmark it, which is a good thing as it wasn't easy to navigate to.

Note, you may also see the new site referred to as "Serve Tennis", which it was in a newsletter from my section also received today.

I did visit the site again and noticed some changes have been made already, notably rather than having you enter just a location in the search box, you can now specify the category (Junior, Adult, Wheelchair) and date range for the initial search.  Previously, category and date were filters you applied after searching on location.  It is nice to see they are trying to continue to improve it as it launches, so hopefully stay tuned for more.

I also see that there are now 773 tournaments listed, up from 420 a little over a week ago, and 105 are Adult tournaments, up from 35 previously.

The sorting by date still doesn't work, but hopefully that will be fixed soon.  And the distance filter is interesting in that it offers a fine grained control from 10 to 50 miles, but above that is only unlimited.  I think this should change to probably offer 10, 50, 100, 500, and unlimited.

What do you think?  Will you be looking for tournaments to play in as 2021 starts?

Tuesday, December 1, 2020

Looking for a 2021 USTA tournament? Welcome to USTA Play Tennis!

The demise of TennisLink has been rumored for many years, some of it wishful thinking by those forced to use it, but some of it based on reports and news we've heard from the USTA about replacing it.

I wrote a few months ago about some forthcoming changes coming, namely around tournaments at first, and it appears those changes are imminent.

If you go to TennisLink Tournaments, the Find a Tournament and Advanced Search are still there, but searching for tournaments in 2021 results in none being shown.  However, if you go to the new PlayTennis site, or more specifically the tournament search there, you will find 2021 tournaments there.  It appears TennisLink is being retired for tournaments, junior and adult, effective the start of the new year and the new site will be used for searching and registering for them going forward.

I note the specific tournament search page because as I write this, it isn't easy to navigate to.  There may be some ways to get there somewhere, but I found no link to it on the PlayTennis main page nor TennisLink, and on the main USTA site you can find a link but have to know just where to go.  So just use the direct link I gave.

Once there, you can search by location and do a variety of filtering based on Junior/Adult/Wheelchair, different genders or age ranges, section/district, event type, or distance from the search location.  It would be nice to be able to search on a name as well but that is missing right now.  You can sort by distance from the search location or date, although the date sorting doesn't seem to be working as I write this and there are some other growing pains typical of a new site you may run across.

There are an increasing number of tournaments showing up, 420 last I checked, but 90+% of them are junior tournaments, so those of us adults looking for senior or NTRP tournaments in 2021 are going a bit wanting right now.  Only 35 Adult tournaments listed and only 2 remotely close to me means no tournaments in my area for awhile it appears.

Now, it is a new system and Tournament Directors and other staff need to be trained and switch to using it and that may take some time, but it appears to be a USTA sanctioned tournament, it will have to be on the new site.  Throw in COVID, reduced staff from layoffs, and TDs being unsure if they'll be able to hold their events and I'm sure that explains why tournaments are slow to show up, but we are less than a month from 2021 now so let's hope more tournaments are added soon.

For those that play USTA League, an obvious question is if/when will leagues use the new site?  As I wrote before, I'm sure that is in the plans but I'm guessing it won't be ready for 2021, so 2022 at the earliest.

Wednesday, August 12, 2020

Is the end of TennisLink for USTA League near? Yes and no ...

It has been rumored for many years that TennisLink is on its last legs and soon to be replaced.  Yet here we are in 2020 still using it for USTA leagues and tournaments.  But is the end near?

It is not a secret that the USTA has been working on a replacement for the past couple years, there are mentions of a new Tennis Event Product or Serve Tennis around and it appears Club Spark is the company working on it.  But I've recently heard that players will see it first as Tennis Management Tools (TMT) targeting USTA tournaments and likely launch in 2021.

Now, some information I've seen indicated it was supposed to launch in 2020, perhaps some pieces even in 2019, so 2021 is certainly no guarantee, but I'm sure COVID-19 and other events have contributed to the slip to 2021.

Features I believe are planned include:
  • Facility Management
  • Social Leagues
  • Drop-in Events
  • Tennis on Campus
  • Net Generation Events
  • Sanctioned and Non-Sanctioned Tournaments

You will notice I don't include USTA Leagues, but I'm sure it is on the roadmap and just wasn't in the near term goals I saw, although my guess is not until 2022 or later.  So I expect we'll be using TennisLink for at least another full year+ for leagues.

By starting with tournaments, the USTA may be trying to go head to head with UTR and their platform for tournaments.  It will be interesting to see how they compare and if tournament directors choose one or the other to setup and manage their tournaments.

Note that part of what is coming is already here to some degree.  See https://playtennis.usta.com/ where organizations and individual providers can setup accounts and seemingly have a web-site and manage contacts and interacting with them.  Nothing really on leagues and tournaments and some of the other items above, nor anything for players, but I'm sure it is in the works.

It is encouraging to see some progress being made, although it appears it is still early and resources for tournament and league players are still a little ways off.  Stay tuned as I learn more.

Tuesday, July 23, 2019

2020 USTA NTRP Nationals Schedule Published

If you are a USTA NTRP tournament player and interested in testing your skills against the best from other sections, NTRP Nationals may be for you.

NTRP Nationals is an event that players qualify for within their section, and then all the qualifiers come together for a weekend tournament to determine the champion at each NTRP level for each gender.

If you are interested, the schedule for 2020 has been published.
  • 18 & Over Singles - April 3-5 in Surprise, AZ
  • 18 & Over Doubles - April 17-19 in Surprise, AZ
  • 50 & Over Singles - April 3-5 in Orlando, FL
  • 50 & Over Doubles - April 17-19 in Naples, FL
There is a theme here, a player can't play both 18 & Over and 50 & Over in the same discipline, and 50 & Over is in Florida, likely on clay, while 18 & Over is in Arizona on hard courts.  This basically swapped from last year's schedule where 50 & Over was in Arizona and 18 & Over in Florida.  Makes sense to alternate so it is geographically closer to West/East coast in alternating years.

Tuesday, April 9, 2019

Get out and play a tournament! Doubles tournament at my club in two weeks

Playing USTA League is popular with a lot of players.  Playing generally one match per week over 2-3 months works for a lot of people's schedules, and it usually results in matches between player's of similar abilities.  Quite a few folks also like the idea of playing on a team where the camaraderie and team result is the focus, and everyone works towards a season long goal.

For those that prefer to have their matches more condensed and/or are working on individual goals, there is tournament play.  Tournaments are usually played over 3-4 days and on weekends, with anywhere from 2-5 matches played depending on the size of the draw or tournament format.  The USTA sanctions both age division and NTRP tournaments, and other organizations sanction tournament play as well that may be ratings based or even gender neutral.  Some players play exclusively in tournaments and don't play in league, so playing in tournaments also offers the opportunity to play new players if you grow tired of facing the same players in league year after year.

NTRP Nationals for tournament players was just held the past few weekends and these players qualified to go based on playing NTRP tournaments in the area.  Different sections use different criteria for determining who will advance, but all involve qualifying by playing in NTRP tournaments during the year to accumulate points or advancing to a Sectionals tournament to identify the top players.

If you are interested in going to NTRP Nationals next year, now is the time to start playing NTRP tournaments.  The club I play at, Columbia Athletic Club Silver Lake, is hosting a few tournaments in the next month, a doubles event starting April 25th, and a singles event starting May 16th.

If you are wanting to get to NTRP Nationals, or just want to give tournament play a try, find a tournament near you!

Thursday, March 28, 2019

USTA Tournament NTRP Nationals begin this weekend

Starting last year, the USTA began holding Nationals events for NTRP tournament players and is continuing with the offering this year.  In fact, the events begin this weekend with the 18 & Over singles in Naples, FL, and the 50 & Over singles in Surprise, AZ.  Next weekend finds the doubles events for both groups at the same sites.

Players and pairs will have qualified following the rules outlined in their section, often by accumulating points playing NTRP tournaments during 2018, and perhaps then playing in a Sectionals tournament to determine the top players that get to advance.

The format for the events are up to 32 players being put in up to 8 flights for three round-robin matches each, followed by the 8 flight winners advancing to a standard quarter-finals, semi-finals, and final.  In order to get all the matches in, potentially six over the 3-day weekend, the events use the Fast Four scoring.

Players qualify to play at a given level based on having either a 2017 or 2018 year-end rating at that level.  This means that a 2017 year-end 3.5 who played 3.5 level tournaments all year and got bumped up to 4.0 at 2018 year-end is still qualified to play at the NTRP Nationals at the 3.5 level.  I believe the rationale is that this is the Nationals event for players who qualified during 2018, so might as well let them continue to play at that level they were eligible for during that year.

Note that I believe it also allows a player who was a 4.0 during 2017 but got a 3.5 2018 year-end rating to be eligible at the 3.5 level, but I'm not sure how many sectionals qualifying and selection criteria would provide a path for these players at the 3.5 level.

The feedback I heard from last year's event was that it was very good, even if the Fast Four format was a little new/short/quirky for some.  There will be some players that are looked at as sandbaggers, particularly those players that were bumped up at 2018 year-end but are still playing at their lower level, but that is just the nature of any Nationals event.

What do you think?  Are you going?  Do you wish you were going?  What was the qualification process like in your section?


Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Southern section changing rules regarding tournaments and NTRP ratings

The USTA allows sections some flexibility in determining the matches from which leagues/tournaments get included in NTRP rating calculations.  Generally, all matches from what are considered advancing leagues, i.e. those that can advance on to Nationals, are included, but a section can elect to include (or not) matches from other leagues like Tri-Level, One Doubles, Combo, or other singles/doubles leagues that may be run during the year.

Similarly, sections can elect to include tournaments in year-end calculations and some do and some don't.  See my FAQ question 40 where I describe this.

In the past, Southern has been a section that only included advancing leagues and did not include tournaments.  While I have not found an official regulation document stating this change, I have learned that some communications have gone out announcing a change for the 2019 year.  Specifically, sanctioned NTRP tournaments will be included in year-end calculations.  Along with this change, players playing in sanctioned NTRP tournaments must hold a valid and current rating, or self-rate per the guidelines.

What this means is that players that play only tournaments will now get a 'T' rating where in the past they would not get a year-end rating.  This also means that players that play USTA League as well as sanctioned NTRP tournaments will have their tournament results included in year-end calculations.

My section, Pacific Northwest, also used to not count tournaments but changed for 2018 to include them.  The primary reason for the change in PNW was due to the requirements for NTRP Nationals.

NTRP Nationals is an event that was held for the first time in 2018 for NTRP tournament players to advance to so that this group of players will have a Nationals similar to USTA League players.  Players advance by playing in tournaments within their section and qualifying based on points either directly or to play at a Sectionals event where players/pairs to advance are determined.

The NTRP Nationals event does require that a player have a calculated NTRP rating, they cannot be a self-rated player, and as such, someone that plays only tournaments in a section that doesn't include them in year-end calculations would not have a rating and not be eligible.  So my section changed the rule so these players would get a rating and be eligible, and my guess is Southern is changing their rule, at least in part, for the same reason.

In general, I think this is a good move.  I believe ratings are more accurate when more match play is included in the calculations.  And having tournament players get rated and be required to have a rating should help clean up any issues with players playing at the wrong level in tournaments which should improve the experience for all.

Of course, there are some players that will see tournaments as an opportunity to tank matches to manage their rating down so they can play USTA League at what is perhaps a lower level than they should be at.  Getting enough tournament matches in to really affect a rating may be a pricey endeavor, as tanking means losing so only getting one (or two with a losers bracket) match in per event, so I hope this discourages players from doing so.  Better, it would be great if the USTA had provisions in the year-end calculations to weed out what appear to be tanked matches so such players are not rewarded from doing so.

But what do you think?  Is including tournaments in ratings calculations the right move for Southern?  Has there been a problem with tournaments and will having players be rated improve the experience and cause more players to play tournaments?

For those that play tournaments, whether you play USTA League or not, I can include tournament matches in the reports I do.  This is a great way to see how you are doing and get feedback so you can know what is/isn't working and measure your improvement.  Contact me if interested.


Friday, August 3, 2018

2018 Washington State Open this weekend at Seattle Tennis Club

If you live in the Seattle area and are wanting to see some good tennis, the Washington State Open is being played at Seattle Tennis Club this weekend through August 5th.

I believe this tournament is the largest Open and Age Division tournament in the area with a field of nearly 128 in the Men's Open draw, and large fields in many of the other draws too including some top ranked players in several of the Age Division draws.

Browsing the draws I see players from Oregon, California, British Columbia, Idaho, Hawaii, Arizona, and even as far away as Minnesota and Florida!

It looks like the weather should be nice this weekend so go on out and enjoy some good tennis in a beautiful location.

Friday, July 6, 2018

USTA NTRP Nationals 2019 schedule published - How can you get a rating to qualify?

Those of you that regularly read my musings here know that the USTA introduced an NTRP National Championships event held earlier this year.  This is a Nationals for NTRP tournament players, as opposed to USTA League players, and gives tournament players an opportunity to advance and compete against players of the same level from other sections of the country.  Read what I wrote last year for more details.

The 2018 events were held in April and each section determined how players advanced, but in most if not all cases advancement was based on NTRP tournament results from 2017 and perhaps a Sectionals tournament for those that qualified.  Two Nationals events were held, one for 18 & Over singles and doubles and another for 50 & Over singles and doubles.

The schedule for 2019 has been published and is now four events.  The singles and doubles at each age level have been split into separate events leaving us with this schedule:
  • March 29-31 - 18 & Over 3.0 thru 5.0 singles at Academia Sanchez-Casal in Naples, FL
  • March 29-31 - 50 & Over 3.0 thru 4.5 singles at Surprise Tennis & Racquet Complex in Surprise, AZ
  • April 5-7 - 18 & Over 3.0 thru 5.0 doubles at Academia Sanchez-Casal in Naples, FL
  • April 5-7 - 50 & Over 3.0 thru 4.5 doubles at Surprise Tennis & Racquet Complex in Surprise, AZ

One new thing is the addition of the 3.0 level for both age groups and the 5.0 level for 18 & Over.  This will give more players an opportunity to experience Nationals which is great.

Another change is the splitting of singles and doubles, perhaps due to expanding the levels and the additional court requirements.  This split is nice in that it gives a player a more reasonable chance to compete in both singles and doubles, but having the 18 & Over and 50 & Over events on the same dates means a 50+ player has to pick one or the other if they happen to qualify for both.

On one hand, that gives the under-50 crowd more of their own event as you might expect those over-50 to focus on their event, but it also takes away an opportunity for those older players that can still play with and like to test themselves against younger players at a Nationals event.  In general, I like the changes though, but perhaps the events won't go head to head on the calendar in the future.

The format appears to be remaining basically the same.  It will use the Fast Four format and each player will play in one of eight 4-player round robin groups that advance to four 8-player compass draws.  From what I heard, the format had mixed reviews as it is different than normal play and what most play in tournaments.  The plus is that it allows more matches to be fit into a 3-day weekend, the minus is that you can't start slow or get behind in a set as it goes quick.

The event in Surprise will certainly be on hard courts, but Academia Sanchez-Casal has a lot of clay courts so my guess is that event may be primarily or entirely on clay.  That is great for those players that play year-round on clay, but I'm guessing the majority of tournament players play predominantly on hard courts so we'll see how that goes.

So how do you qualify to go to NTRP Nationals?

First, you have to play in NTRP tournaments!  For each event you play, you accumulate points and each section then determines how they will pick the players to advance.

Some sections will hold a Sectional tournament where players qualify for it based on tournament play during the year.  Others will just use the tournament rankings from the accumulated points to determine the representatives directly.  Check with your Section Coordinator with the format your section will use.

Second, as I understand it, self-rated players cannot advance to Nationals so you must have a year-end NTRP rating.  It may seem like this is a given, you play tournaments and you'll get a rating, but not all sections have included tournament results in year-end ratings, and some players that play just tournaments continue to be self-rated.

This means that a tournament player would also have to play USTA League to get a year-end rating and thus be qualified.  This is certainly doable for most players, and many already play League, but there are some that prefer tournaments to league play and do not play both.

In order to get tournament only players eligible for NTRP Nationals, more sections are considering including tournaments in year-end ratings.  Which sections do/don't include them is somewhat fluid, but as I write this my research shows the following do or plan to for 2018:

  • Eastern
  • Intermountain
  • Mid-Atlantic
  • Middle States
  • Northern California
  • Northern
  • Pacific Northwest
  • Southern California
  • Texas

That is just over half, so as of now, a lot of players that play only tournaments would continue to remain ineligible for NTRP Nationals.  But more sections may elect to include tournaments before year-end ratings are calculated though.

Checking some statistics, it appears less than 2K players ended 2017 with a tournament exclusive (T) rating.  I'll have to do some more research to see how many played tournaments and not league and didn't get a rating, but I'd say there is a good chance there are at least 2K more since only about half the sections include tournament matches.

What do you think?  Do you play NTRP tournaments?  Is qualifying for NTRP Nationals one of your goals for this year?

Sunday, March 11, 2018

NTRP tournaments now count toward NTRP ratings in the Pacific Northwest - Get a report including tournament matches

The USTA runs a number of different programs and formats for recreational players to play competitive tennis.  The one I write about most often is USTA League, where players form teams in one of several divisions and levels and play against other teams, and can advance on to playoffs and even Nationals in the main Adult and Mixed divisions.  This allows player who like the team atmosphere to play once a week or so in a 10-15 week season and potential advance further.

But USTA League is not the only game in town, there are sanctioned USTA tournaments as well, and these in two different formats.  Tournaments cater to the individual or doubles teams that are looking for several matches in a tournament format typically over a single weekend.

One tournament format is age group tournaments where there may be an Open draw for players of any age, but then several draws for players of at least a certain age, typically starting at 35 and over and going up in 5 year increments, although every tournament doesn't always offer every increment.  Players accrue points based on the category of tournament and how far they advance and get rankings based on those points.  These tournament matches have no bearing on a player's NTRP level.

The other tournament format is NTRP tournaments.  These are similar to USTA League in that players are in a draw with players of the same NTRP level (players can play up though), but it is done in a tournament rather than league format.

For the second format, since players play at a given NTRP level, one might wonder if these matches are used in calculating a player's year-end NTRP level.  The answer is "it depends".  Each section is given the option of including tournaments in year-end rating calculations and some do and some don't.

For as many years as I've been playing USTA League and tournaments, the Pacific Northwest section has not included NTRP tournaments.  For 2018, that is changing, matches played in sanctioned NTRP tournaments will count towards year-end ratings and levels.

I became aware of this being considered a number of months ago, and as I understand it it is due in large part to the new NTRP Nationals for this year.  This is basically a "Nationals" for NTRP tournament players similar to the Nationals that USTA League players can advance to.  By including NTRP tournament matches in year-end ratings, it will both increase the number of matches used in the calculations and better represent a player's rating that plays both league and tournaments.

What do you think?  Will NTRP Nationals and NTRP tournament matches counting for ratings cause you to be more interested in playing NTRP tournaments?

And for those that are interested, I can now include NTRP tournament matches in by Estimated Dynamic NTRP Rating Reports so do contact me if interested.

Wednesday, December 6, 2017

USTA NTRP National Championships - Another opportunity for recreational tennis Nationals!

Anyone who reads my blog or follows USTA League tennis is aware of the National Championships that the USTA holds each Fall where players who played USTA League locally are able to advance through local playoffs, Districts/States, Sectionals, and make it to Nationals where they can compete against teams from 16 other sections to win a championship.  Championships are held at NTRP levels for both Adult (men's teams and women's teams) and Mixed teams.

But the USTA doesn't run just USTA League.  There are tournaments held throughout the year that are sanctioned by the USTA and these include both NTRP tournaments and as well as Open/Senior tournaments that are open to all of any age (Open) or of a minimum age (35+, 40+, 45+, etc.).

For the Open/Senior tournaments, there are select tournaments identified as championships that draw the very best in pursuit of winning the title.

What has been missing, until now, is the identification of a "champion" for NTRP tournament play.  Recently, the USTA has introduced the NTRP National Championships which is a "new national adult tournament that leverages the NTRP rating system as a way to create level-based competition at the 18 & over and 50 & over age groups".

The tournaments will be held for 18+ in Surprise, AZ April 6-8 and for 50+ in Naples, FL April 20-22 and include play at the 3.5, 4.0, and 4.5 levels in both singles and doubles.  The page says they there will be four-player round robins feeding into compass draws so each player/pair should get a number of matches in.

Interestingly, the scoring format is listed as Fast Four.  This has been experimented with in some events including the ATP NextGen tournament a month or so ago, and entails best-of-three set matches to four games with a tie-break at 3-3 in a set and tie-breaks the first to 5 win by one.  I like the idea of not having match tie-breaks for a third set, but am not sure about first to four sets.  But I guess if you are going to play upwards of 6 matches in three days, some sort of short format is needed.

To advance a player will need to play NTRP tournaments in their section and using criteria set by each section, quality to be a section's representative to the event.

Some sections will hold a Sectional tournament where players qualify for it based on tournament play during the year, say the top 8 or top 16 at a level advancing to Sectionals.  Others will just use the tournament rankings to determine the representatives directly.  See the link above with links to rules for various sections or contact info for each section's coordinator.

It is interesting to note that a couple sections have explicitly stated that self-rated players are not eligible to advance to Nationals.  I think this makes sense, you don't want to encourage players to self-rate too low to unfairly dominate at too low a level, especially since there are no 3-strike DQ's from NTRP tournament play.  There are some that feel that self-rated players shouldn't be eligible to go the USTA League playoffs or Nationals!

As there is often confusion about rankings vs ratings, particularly as it relates to NTRP play, a little clarification is probably a good idea.  See what I wrote several years ago for more details, but the summary is that a player generates an NTRP rating and associated year-end NTRP level from play in USTA League play (and sometimes NTRP tournament matches are included too), while a player separately accumulates points from NTRP tournament play based on how far they advance in a draw, and their ranking is just based on where the show up (rank) in the list of players with points.  So these are separate and distinct things.

In any case, this is a new opportunity for recreational players who have an NTRP rating/level to advance to a Nationals and get to play against peers from other sections.

What do you think?  Will you set new goals to play more tournaments because of the NTRP National Championship?

Friday, July 31, 2015

What would happen to your NTRP rating if you had to deal with this? How the Blue Angels and tennis go together at Seattle Tennis Club

The Washington Open is taking place this week/weekend at Seattle Tennis Club.  It is a beautiful location, right on Lake Washington with views of Mt. Rainier, and regardless of the quality of tennis a nice play to enjoy a warm summer day.  But with an excellent open and age category draw, there is a lot of good tennis to watch too.

The tournament takes place at the same time as Seafair which means the Blue Angels are in town.  And in the days leading up to Seafair weekend, they practice over Lake Washington where they will perform.  It turns out their flight path is right over Seattle Tennis Club which can make for some interesting tennis.

For those that have not seen the Blue Angels or see other military jets flying at near full thrust, it is a bit noisy.  This video gives you a rough idea of what it is like.  Be sure to turn your volume up.



The geography and how they approach the lake gives players very little warning that they are coming by so you could be mid-point or about to toss your ball in the air to serve when 120 decibels goes roaring over head.  Needless to say it can cause some delays, but I think the players sort of become accustom to it as the practice goes on for at least an hour.  But the sudden roar right when you are approaching the net to get that break of serve could be a little disconcerting to say the least.

Once the Blue Angels practice was over, I could focus on the tennis and there was some great tennis, men and women.  It was nice to see a few players from my club do well and I'll be headed back tomorrow to see how they do in the semis.  Good luck!

Saturday, August 2, 2014

USTA Age Group vs NTRP Tennis Tournaments

I usually focus on USTA League play as that is where Dynamic NTRP Ratings are calculated and that is what I do reports on.  But the USTA sanctions tournament play as well and does so in a couple different categories.  Since I just played in one, I thought it might be interesting to write about them.

There are NTRP tournaments where players use their NTRP rating to play at the appropriate level, similar to USTA League.  Players without a rating must self-rate as one must do for USTA League, and those with a rating must enter a tournament at their current level or higher.  So someone with an NTRP rating of 3.5 can enter a NTRP 3.5 tournament draw but they could also play in the 4.0 draw.

Players that play NTRP tournaments will accrue points based on the rounds they win, the deeper in a tournament they go the more points are available to accumulate.  Points are kept track of in a variety of categories based on the tournament type and level and rankings are based on a simple ordering of the accumulated points.  To accumulate more points, you have to play more tournaments, although I believe there is a cap on the number of tournaments that can be included.

As far as NTRP ratings go, a player that plays only in NTRP tournaments and not USTA League will get a tournament exclusive or "T" rating.  If someone plays in both NTRP tournaments and USTA League, their tournament results will be included in the year-end calculations if they are from a section that chooses to do so.  Whether to include them or not is up to each section.

A challenge with T ratings is that they are only calculated at year-end and there is no 3-strike disqualification.  This means that someone that plays only tournaments can self-rate lower than they should and clean-up at a lower level, even while playing a higher level and doing well there.  And until year-end, there is nothing stopping them from doing so.  Because of this, some consider NTRP tournaments to be not worthy of their time and discount anything NTRP related.  Instead they advocate age group tournaments.

Age group tournaments require, like you would expect from the name, entrants to be a minimum age for a given draw.  These tournaments will sometimes be called "Senior" but will oftentimes also include an Open draw allowing players of any age to enter.  The age groups start at 30 and go up in 5 year increments, although some may be skipped for a given tournament.  In the tournament I just played, they started at 35, skipped 40, but then had all groups from 45 thru 80.  You are not required to play in the closest group to your age, you can "play down".  You can't play up of course.  For example, I played in the 45s with a partner that could have played in a higher age group, but I am not allowed to play up so he had to play down with me.

Age group tournaments do not factor in to NTRP ratings at all.  Instead players accumulate points and can become ranked based on their points.  The goal here is to get as high a ranking as possible on the list for your age group.  Points are accumulated based on a points per round system and not based on wins/losses or scores.  Tournaments will be of varying categories that dictate how many points are given out.

The challenge with age group tournaments is that they will typically draw the best of a given age group to play.  This means the recreational player may not be competitive, especially at the lower age groups.  For example, the 35s will typically have 5.0 and above level players competing.  If a 35 year-old player at 4.0 or below were to enter, it would likely be a blowout and not a good experience for either that player or their opponent(s).

So there is a place for both NTRP and Age Group tournaments.  What do you think?  Which do you prefer to play and why?

Saturday, July 13, 2013

We need a better way to follow USTA tournaments and playoffs

My team is fortunate to have made our local playoffs this weekend and have a bye into the semis today.  Our opponent was determined by a match played last night, but short of having driven 45 minutes to watch the match at 5:30 yesterday evening, the only way to find out the result is to check on TennisLink and hope the result gets posted.

And there is the issue.  I have to "hope" it gets posted in a timely fashion.  Unfortunately, it hasn't been yet at 8:00 AM the next morning, and this isn't uncommon from my experience with other USTA playoffs and tournaments.

I've suggested before, even contacting league coordinators directly, that there needs to be a better way to communicate results and other status from an event, but to my knowledge, nothing has changed.  In this world of social media, why can't one person at an event be designated to just tweet a few updates so participants and fans can easily follow what is going on and be able to show up to play or see a match at the right time?

If you agree, please let your league or section coordinator know and lets try to get this addressed.

Friday, July 27, 2012

Tennis Tournament Updates Idea

Here is the scenario.  You are playing in a tennis tournament or playoffs of some sort.  There is a full weekend-plus of matches scheduled and you don't want to spend a full 3 days at the event.  You check the schedule, see that your next match is at 2:30 the following afternoon and figure you'll show up at 2:00 to be a bit early an all will be good.

Lo and behold, you get there at 2:00 and the match before yours hasn't even gone out yet.  It finally goes on at 2:45 and goes the distance, 11-9 in the match tie-break, and you don't get on court until 4:30, 2 hours after your scheduled time.

Far fetched?  Not really.  Whether because of long matches, weather, or whatever other snafus can occur, this is probably a fairly common occurrence, although 2 hours late is perhaps more rare.  But as a player, when this happens you end up sitting around and having to alter your eating and hydration schedule to try to adapt.  Now, this does provide an opportunity to hang out with friends and watch some tennis, but wouldn't it be nice if there was a way to get timely updates?

Sure, scores and results ultimately find their way onto TennisLink (for USTA matches) or a tournament web-site, but those updates typically happen at the end of the day, or at least several hours after the matches occurred, not terribly helpful for getting near-real-time updates.  Finding the time to navigate an application or web-site to update the scores can take time, and even if they are entered in a timely fashion, for the players, having to navigate the site and constantly hit refresh simply doesn't make sense.

A better solution is to use a widely adopted tool, Twitter!  Twitter provides a simple way for a tournament director or assistant to quickly tweet scores, results, or schedule/timing updates and all the interested players to receive those updates with little to no effort.  Most everyone has a smartphone of some sort today and can easily send/receive tweets and this would provide a great way for all of the players or anyone else interested in following the tournament to do so.

Simply set up a Twitter account for the tournament, or setup/use an existing account you may have for the organization or club running the tournament, advertise it as part of the registration process, and then use it.  As a bonus for the tournament director, this would likely cut down on the phone calls or other requests they get for schedule updates.

If you think this is a good idea, let your tournament directors know.  Let's make this a standard thing each tournament does.

Monday, March 12, 2012

2012 NCAA Tournament Observations and Potential Upsets

I posted my computer's full ratings and as well as who my computer says should have made the 68-team field earlier today.  But now it is time to look at who actually made the field and see what observations can be made and what we can learn from them.  The full list of teams with my computer's ratings is below.

First, it is always fun to look at the seeding and see how things panned out.  At the top, my computer agrees with 3 of the #1 seeds and 3 of the #2 seeds.  It says Syracuse should have been a #2 and Ohio State the #1, and then Duke is too high as a #2 and Memphis should have replaced them.  So all in all, not that far off here.

So where was the seeding way off?

Belmont is the most underrated team being a #14 seed, but my computer ranks them #27 which says they should have been around a #7 seed.  They play a #3 seed in Georgetown that is seeded slightly high (ranked #17 should have been a #5 seed) so this game is a potential upset.

Memphis is a #8 seed but being ranked #8 by my computer says they should have been a #2 seed.

St. Louis and Long Beach State are also small conference teams getting no respect as my computer ranks them #19 and #33, worthy of #5 and #9 seeds, but they received #9 and #12 seeds.

On the other side of things, Montana got in with their conferences automatic bid, but ranked #88 should have been around a #15 seed but received a #13 seed ahead of some at-large teams my computer ranks well ahead of them.

Southern Miss, somehow gets a #9 seed but being ranked #67 shouldn't have even been a bubble team let alone make the tournament.  I may eat crow on this, but do not pick them as one of your #9 upsets #8 seed games.

Colorado State also shouldn't have made it as an #11 seed being ranked #71.  Don't look for them to pull the upset of Murray State either.

San Diego State gets a #6 seed but being ranked #44 should have had more like a #12 seed.  The committee set them up to fail having to play #49 NC State, good upset chance here.

Notre Dame and Temple are a bit high at #7 and #5 respectively, as they are ranked #40 and #32 more in line with a #10 and #8 seed.

What do you think?


RankTeamRatingRecordScheduleChange
RankTeamRatingRecordScheduleChange
1Kentucky87.68832-273.497+0, -1.560
2Michigan St86.53027-775.276+2, +0.691
3Ohio State86.30627-774.682+2, +0.614
4North Carolina85.85629-573.825-2, -1.013
5Kansas85.26227-675.069-2, -0.849
6Missouri85.04530-472.937+1, +1.224
7Syracuse84.53431-273.480-1, -0.672
8Memphis83.22626-872.864+3, +0.904
9Wichita St82.85626-571.967-1, -0.208
10Indiana82.46825-873.863-1, -0.476
11Vanderbilt82.14524-1074.450+9, +1.286
12Baylor82.03426-774.585+2, +0.206
13Duke81.89427-675.163-3, -0.590
14Wisconsin81.86324-974.377-1, -0.104
15Louisville81.71026-974.378+9, +1.650
16Marquette81.50725-774.091-4, -0.676
17Georgetown DC81.15422-874.322+1, -0.023
18New Mexico81.05226-670.889+3, +0.656
19St Louis U.81.04524-771.787-4, -0.659
20Florida80.99523-1074.278-1, +0.095
21Kansas St80.69421-1074.094-4, -0.510
22Michigan80.59123-975.411-6, -0.790
23Florida St80.45224-974.404+9, +1.144
24Gonzaga79.85625-670.251-2, -0.473
25Iowa St79.67422-1073.698-2, -0.572
26Creighton79.58628-571.435+0, -0.167
27Belmont79.52826-769.833+1, -0.041
28Murray St79.47727-168.534+1, -0.059
29UNLV79.17124-871.982-4, -0.654
30Texas79.15920-1374.756+1, -0.324
31Virginia79.12422-971.795-1, -0.371
32Temple79.07524-773.768-5, -0.650
33Long Beach St79.04923-870.979+3, +0.152
34Cincinnati79.01224-1072.603+4, +0.461
35Purdue78.99821-1274.341-1, -0.265
36Alabama78.95221-1174.083-3, -0.322
37St Mary's CA78.59325-569.489+2, +0.106
38Connecticut78.46320-1374.596+4, +0.505
39California78.36924-971.122-4, -0.881
40Notre Dame78.36622-1173.470-3, -0.482
42West Virginia78.09119-1374.264-1, -0.272
43VA Commonwealth77.98228-669.791+0, +0.073
44San Diego St77.50924-771.409+0, -0.208
45Harvard77.44125-469.556+2, -0.028
46New Mexico St77.30324-969.409+13, +0.587
49North Carolina St77.22522-1272.929+12, +0.617
51South Florida77.17119-1374.445-2, +0.109
53St Bonaventure76.84720-1171.963+19, +0.855
54Brigham Young76.78423-869.788-4, -0.242
56Xavier OH76.71821-1273.939-1, -0.040
57Iona76.66025-769.323-3, -0.103
59Ohio U.76.61826-769.479-2, -0.101
62South Dakota St76.52325-768.956-4, -0.195
67Southern Miss75.96823-872.836-7, -0.699
70Davidson75.79824-768.300-2, -0.479
71Colorado St75.79520-1172.550+2, -0.107
77Lehigh75.39825-766.579+5, +0.352
85Colorado74.65021-1172.002+20, +1.047
88Montana74.54323-666.465+2, +0.125
98Lamar73.92321-1168.848+16, +0.834
103Detroit Mercy73.66820-1370.010+13, +0.635
122UNC-Asheville72.50921-967.032+4, -0.086
125Loyola-Maryland72.32524-868.357+7, +0.096
129Vermont72.08923-1166.344+17, +0.635
147LIU-Brooklyn71.20525-866.390+13, +0.591
180Norfolk St68.98424-866.027+1, -0.034
186Western Kentucky68.66115-1870.000+19, +0.792
227Mississippi Valley St66.60921-1266.358-6, -0.477