Showing posts with label schedule. Show all posts
Showing posts with label schedule. Show all posts

Sunday, September 14, 2025

What does a USTA League Nationals Unflighted Round-Robin Schedule Look? - 18 & Over 4.0 Men

USTA League Nationals are just weeks away now and match schedules have been published, so I've started looking at schedules to see what they look like and what teams have stronger/weaker schedules.

Note, if you need a refresher on how Nationals works, read this.

The schedule is important because of the format used where all the teams are in one "flight" where everyone plays four random opponents.  As you can probably imagine, this opens the door for wildly uneven schedules.  My simulations factor in actual schedules, and one way to look at this visually is with a diagram that shows who plays who.

A popular event that many onlookers care about is the 18 & Over 4.0 men's event.  Here is what that schedule looks like.


You can see that there are some groups of teams that are closely connected, but others that are very sparsely connected.

For example, Southern, Mid-Atlantic, Midwest, and Hawaii all play two to three of each other.  And similar for Missouri Valley, Middle States, SoCal, and Caribbean.

If you look at sections that are traditional powers, it appear Texas has a tough schedule having to play SoCal, Intermountain, Florida, and PNW.  Middle States has to play Florida, NorCal, SoCal, and Missouri Valley, so theirs is not easy either.  And Florida has Eastern, Middle States, Texas, and New England.

Southern perhaps has an easier schedule with Hawaii, Midwest, Mid-Atlantic, and PNW, but I'll be honest, this case of this schedules looks as balanced as you might hope.

What do you think?  Is this way of doing schedules fair?  Who got a hard or easy schedule?

And what other events/levels do you want to see the diagram for?



Tuesday, September 9, 2025

2025 USTA League Nationals match schedules are out!

For those of you that are going to Nationals or like to follow what happens there, today is a big day as we march towards the events actually starting.  The match schedules are available!

The last Sectionals for 18 & Over and 40 & Over wrapped up this past weekend, so all the teams are falling into place now and presumably what sections are sending teams to each event is now known, so match schedules can be created.

As a reminder, the event schedules were published awhile back that show when and where each event is.

The main Nationals page has links for each event, and from those pages are links to the match schedules.  But for your convenience, here are those links for each event.

18 & Over

2.5 Women - A full 17 teams

3.0 Men and Women - A full 17 men's and women's teams

3.5 Men and Women - A full 17 men's and women's teams

4.0 Men and Women - A full 17 men's and women's teams

4.5 Men and Women - A full 1716 men's teams, Caribbean missing, and 16 women's teams, Northern missing

5.0 Men and Women - 16 men's teams, Caribbean missing, and just 12 women's teams

40 & Over

3.0 Men and Women - 16 men's teams, Northern missing, and a full 17 women's teams

3.5 Men and Women - A full 17 men's and women's teams

4.0 Men and Women - A full 17 men's and women's teams

4.5 Men and Women - A full 17 men's teams, and 16 women's teams, Caribbean missing


One must always have the caveat that these are subject to change, either to correct errors, or if a section ends up not sending a team the schedule will have to be juggled.  But we have a starting point at least now and captains can begin scouting opponents and planning strategy.

If you are a captain or player headed to Nationals and are looking for information and assistance scouting and planning, contact me or browse this blog as I typically offer a bunch of information about Nationals leading up to the event based on my experience going a few times and helping many teams navigate Nationals every year.

Enjoy!


Update: Some schedules were updated and changes made above.

Monday, January 20, 2025

2025 USTA League Nationals Schedule

It is only January, but 2025 early start leagues were played in the Fall and more leagues have just started, so it isn't too early to start thinking about Nationals.

The 2025 schedule is very much like the 2024 schedule with Orlando, San Diego, Scottsdale, and Surprise all hosting events.  What is different is that the events are spread over five weekends instead of the four we had last year.  This means events begin October 10th this year.

Here are the dates, locations, and events.

  • October 10-12
    • 18 & Over 2.5 Women - Scottsdale
    • 18 & Over 3.5 - Surprise
    • 18 & Over 4.0 - San Diego
    • 18 & Over 5.0 - Scottsdale
  • October 17-19
    • 18 & Over 4.5 - Surprise
    • 40 & Over 3.0 - San Diego
    • 40 & Over 4.0 - Scottsdale
  • October 24-26
    • 18 & Over 3.0 - Scottsdale
    • 40 & Over 3.5 - Surprise
    • 40 & Over 4.5 - San Diego
  • October 31-November 2
    • Mixed 18 & Over 7.0 / 9.0 - Orlando
    • 55 & Over 7.0 / 9.0 - Scottsdale
  • November 7-9
    • Mixed 18 & Over 6.0 / 8.0 / 10.0 - Surprise
    • Mixed 40 & Over 6.0 / 7.0 / 8.0 / 9.0 - Orlando
    • 55 & Over 6.0 / 8.0 - Scottsdale

We see the normal progression of 18 & Over to 40 & Over to 55 & Over and Mixed.

What is new from what I recall is that 40 & Over is being done all the same weekend at the same location.

Also interesting is that Orlando isn't be used until 10/31, when the past few years it was used the week earlier, typically around the 20th.  The late season hurricanes of recent years could very well be influencing this aspect of the schedule.

What event are you hoping to make it to?

Saturday, October 12, 2024

USTA League Nationals is less than a week away

It is the middle of October and if this was like prior years years, we'd be several weeks in to USTA League Nationals events.  But this year the schedule has been compressed into four weeks and things get started next week.

The events starting this coming Friday the 18th are:

  • 18 & Over 2.5 women - Scottsdale
  • 18 & Over 5.0 - Scottsdale
  • 18 & Over 4.0 - Surprise
  • 18 & Over 3.0 - San Diego
  • 40 & Over 3.5 - Orlando

Thoughts go out to all those in Florida who had to deal with a sequence of hurricanes, and the National Campus in Orlando did close for a few days for each one, but thankfully the forecast for this weekend, and the following which will also have an event there, looks good.  There is the normal Florida chance of a shower, but otherwise looks like 80's for both weekends.

Good luck to all the teams!

Tuesday, September 10, 2024

USTA League Nationals schedules are out

The USTA sent out an e-mail this morning that the schedules for USTA League Nationals are available, and if you drill in to the pages from the Nationals site, indeed they are there.

From that page, click on the event registration link for the event of your choice, and that will take you to the Play Tennis page for the event, and then find the "Match Schedule with Tennislink Stats & Standings" link and you will navigate to a Google Spreadsheet with the schedule in a grid.

Who do you think got an easy or hard schedule?

Saturday, January 13, 2024

2024 USTA League Nationals schedule is availalble - Only 4 weekends this year!

Calendar year 2024 is just getting started, and many sections have league play underway, but some areas had early start leagues and local league play is already over.  In both cases teams are progressing towards USTA League Nationals typically held in October and November.

For those teams aspiring to get to Nationals, knowing the schedule and locations can be useful and there is a PDF of the schedule here.

The summary is that there will be four sites for 2024:

  • Barnes Tennis Center in San Diego, CA
  • Scottsdale Ranch Park & Indian School Park in Scottsdale, AZ
  • Surprise Tennis and Racquet Complex in Surprise, AZ
  • USTA National Campus in Orlando, FL
A significant change is that Nationals don't start until mid-October, where they have typically started the first weekend of October, even starting late in September on occasion including last year.  This means just four weekends of Nationals compared with seven in 2023.  Here are the dates and events:
  • October 18-20
    • 18 & Over 2.5 women - Scottsdale
    • 18 & Over 5.0 - Scottsdale
    • 18 & Over 4.0 - Surprise
    • 18 & Over 3.0 - San Diego
    • 40 & Over 3.5 - Orlando
  • October 25-27
    • 18 & Over 3.5 - San Diego
    • 40 & Over 3.0 - Scottsdale
    • 40 & Over 4.0 - Orlando
    • 40 & Over 4.5 - Surprise
  • November 1-3
    • Mixed 18 & Over 6.0 / 8.0 / 10.0 - Surprise
    • Mixed 18 & Over 7.0 / 9.0 - Orlando
    • 55 & Over 7.0 / 9.0 - Scottsdale
  • November 8-10
    • 18 & Over 4.5 - Surprise
    • Mixed 40 & Over 6.0 / 8.0 - San Diego
    • Mixed 40 & Over 7.0 / 9.0 - Orlando
    • 55 & Over 6.0 / 8.0 - Scottsdale

We see that every location is used each week except for San Diego skipping the third weekend.  And we see events are much more compressed with four to seven events each weekend.  In 2023, there were just two to four most weekends.

This means that some players that would go to multiple Nationals will have a lot harder time doing it this year.  Someone can still go to 18 & Over and 40 & Over at the same level as there is no overlap there (but they are nearly all consecutive weekends), but the schedule for Mixed makes it nearly impossible for someone to go at two levels in the same age division.  For example, in 2023, if you were a 4.0, you could have played 7.0 and 8.0 Mixed at either 18 & Over or 40 & Over as they were on different weekends.  That is no longer possible.

The main 18 & Over and 40 & Over Adult divisions are typically first and that remains the case, but are compressed down into nearly just two weekends (18 & Over 4.5 oddly is now the last weekend) instead of the typical four to five weekends.

Why was this done?  I'm not sure, but can guess the following contributed:

  • USTA staff having to cover seven consecutive weekends of Nationals is a lot.
  • Surprise was used for six consecutive weekends last year and may have wanted a reduced commitment.
  • The USTA may have wanted to spread the Nationals experience around by reducing the ability for the same players to go to many events.
  • The USTA wanted Orlando used every weekend of Nationals and it is hard to do so early in October with the chance of hurricanes.
  • The USTA wanted to make it harder on me to get all my simulations and predictions done each weekend (just kidding).

Seriously, this will make it harder to follow along with many more events going on simultaneously.  I certainly will be busier if I try to pull of previews, simulations, and updates for all the events.

What do you think of this change?  Were Nationals too drawn out before and getting it all done in four weeks is better?  Or did you prefer the prior schedule?

Friday, September 15, 2023

Visualizing 2023 USTA League Nationals - 18 & Over 3.5

2023 USTA League Nationals will be underway two weeks from today with the 3.5 men and women in Surprise, AZ.  The schedules have been published and should be final now, so I'll continue with my posts visualizing the schedules following up on the 18 & Over 4.5 I did last week.

Here are the 18 & Over 3.5 women.


This looks reasonably balanced and random.  We'll see when I do the simulation but there may be a very low chance of more than four undefeated teams with this schedule.

And the 18 & Over 3.5 men.


This also looks reasonably random and balanced.

More to come!

Friday, September 8, 2023

Visualizing 2023 USTA League Nationals - 18 & Over 4.5

2023 USTA League Nationals start in just a few weeks, and the schedules have been published.  Some may be preliminary and could change if a section ends up not sending a team, but I think most are close to if not final at this point.  That means I can once again visualize the schedules as I did last year!

Here are the 18 & Over 4.5 women.


We can see there are sort of two groups that all play each other a lot, but just a handful of cross over matches between them.  When I do my simulations we'll see how that all plays out.

And the 18 & Over 4.5 men.


This is a little more evenly connected, but sort of has three groups sparsely connected.

More to come!

Saturday, April 15, 2023

The 2023 USTA League Nationals schedule is out!

For many USTA League players, the dream of advancing to USTA League Nationals and winning the title is part of the allure of USTA League play.  Local league play takes place throughout the year, many areas having different leagues played year-round, but the main leagues have their Nationals in the Fall each year.

I just wrote about some of the secondary leagues and tournament nationals events, but the big news for those in the regular leagues is what the schedule is for those national events for 2023.

It looks like the sites for Nationals this year will be several of the traditional locations and include Orlando, San Diego, Surprise, and Tucson.  Oklahoma City was used last year as was Scottsdale and they are out with San Diego and Tucson in.

The schedule itself is very similar to last year with 18 & Over towards the front, 40 & Over in the middle, and 55 & Over and Mixed at the end.  Here is the full schedule:

  • September 29 - October 1
    • 18 & Over 2.5 women - Tucson, AZ
    • 18 & Over 5.0 - Tucson, AZ
    • 18 & Over 3.5 - Surprise, AZ
  • October 6 - 8
    • 18 & Over 4.5 - Surprise, AZ
    • 40 & Over 3.5 - Tucson, AZ
  • October 13 - 15
    • 18 & Over 3.0 - Surprise, AZ
    • 40 & Over 4.5 - Tucson, AZ
  • October 20 - 22
    • 18 & Over 4.0 - Surprise, AZ
    • 40 & Over 3.0 - San Diego, CA
    • 55 & Over 6.0 / 8.0 - Orlando, FL
  • October 27 - 29
    • 40 & Over 4.0 - San Diego, CA
    • 55 & Over 7.0 / 9.0 - Orlando, FL
    • 18 & Over Mixed 6.0 / 8.0 / 10.0 - Surprise, AZ
  • November 3 - 5
    • 40 & Over Mixed 7.0 / 9.0 - Surprise, AZ
  • November 10 - 12
    • 18 & Over Mixed 7.0 / 9.0 - Orlando, FL
    • 40 & over Mixed 6.0 / 8.0 - San Diego, CA
If you aspire to make it to Nationals, pencil those dates in on your schedule!

USTA Nationals aren't only in the Fall!

Those that play USTA League are used to the league season culminating in Nationials being held in October and November, but that isn't the only time national events are held.

What is played in the Fall are the "main" leagues, those being 18 & Over Adult and Mixed, 40 & Over Adult and Mixed, and 55 & Over Adult.  But there are other leagues played and some of them end up having their national events in the Spring.

Now, these events are not called "Nationals" for some reason but instead are "National Invitationals".  Here are a few:

The last of these is next weekend, good luck to all those attending.

Additionally, the national events for NTRP tournament players are in the Spring.  This gives tournament players from across the country that excelled in tournament play an opportunity to qualify from their section and test themselves against those from other sections.

Here is/was the NTRP tournament Nationals schedule:

  • March 31 - April 2 
    • 18 & Over Singles in San Diego, CA
    • 40 & Over Singles in Orlando, FL
    • 55 & Over Singles in Surprise, AZ
  • April 14 - 16
    • 18 & Over Doubles in San Diego, CA
    • 40 & Over Doubles in Pelham, AL
    • 55 & Over Doubles in Surprise, AZ
The last of these is this weekend, good luck to all those participating as I write this!

Sunday, October 16, 2022

An idea for the 40 & Over 4.0 men

I wrote about the rain and its impact on the schedule, and offered some ideas for how to determine a champ yesterday.

A new idea I had today.  There are/were four undefeated teams, but two of them, Intermountain and Eastern play so that would leave three undefeated teams, if Mid-Atlantic wins vs Caribbean, or two if they lose.  At this point, just take the top-2 teams in the standings and have them play their 4th match against each other to determine the champ.  The scheduled opponents for those two teams could play each other for their 4th so there is really no impact to matches played, but we get some clarity by having the top-2 teams play each other.

Yes, if there are three teams 3-0 one of them is left out.  But I think this approach is better than having them all finish 4-0 without having played each other, it at least has the top two teams by the standings play head to head.

What do you think?

I'm confident this won't happen as it is too late to adjust for it I'm sure, but I would have loved to see it.

Tuesday, October 11, 2022

Visualizing USTA League Nationals Schedules - 18 & Over 4.0 women

Next up in my series of posts visualizing the 2022 USTA League Nationals schedules is the 18 & Over 4.0 women which will be played the third weekend of Nationals.


This schedule looks reasonably random but as with others, there are some mini-pods.

Hawaii, Middle States, and SoCal all play each other, as do Intermountain, Southwest, and Midwest.  Also, Caribbean, Florida, and New England all do.

Monday, October 10, 2022

Visualizing USTA League Nationals Schedules - 18 & Over 3.0 men

Next up in my series of posts visualizing the 2022 USTA League Nationals schedules is the 18 & Over 3.0 men which will be played the third weekend of Nationals.


This schedule looks reasonably random but as with others, there are some mini-pods.

Florida, SoCal, and Middle States all play each other, and Intermountain plays Florida and Middle States.  Caribbean, Midwest, and Southwest all play each other.  Then Texas, Missouri Valley, and Mid-Atlantic all play each other, and Northern, Hawaii, NorCal, and PNW all play two of each other.

Visualizing USTA League Nationals Schedules - 18 & Over 3.0 women

Next up in my series of posts visualizing the 2022 USTA League Nationals schedules is the 18 & Over 3.0 women which will be played the third weekend of Nationals.


This schedule looks reasonably random but as with others, there are some mini-pods.

Caribbean, Intermountain, and Northern all play each other, and Florida plays Caribbean and Northern.  NorCal, Missouri Valley, and Hawaii all play each other.  Then Mid-Atlantic plays Middle States and Eastern, Middle States plays PNW, and PNW plays Eastern.

Saturday, October 1, 2022

2022 USTA League Nationals 18 & Over 3.5 Men day 1 update - A chance of five 4-0 teams

After day 1 of the 18 & Over 3.5 men's event, there are seven teams that are undefeated (Intermountain, Southern, SoCal, PNW, Hawaii, Eastern, and Middle States), and there is a real chance, greater than 4%, that five teams end up all 4-0 for four spots.  The simulation said it was possible, but the chance of it happening has gone up.

A good way to see it is by visualizing the schedule and results.  In the diagram below, the teams in green diamonds are 2-0, the yellow boxes are 1-1, and black circles are 0-2.  The solid arrows point to the team that won a match yesterday and the dotted lines are to be played matches.

We can see that of the undefeated teams, we can see that Southern Cal and Eastern play, and Intermountain and Hawaii play.  So two of the 2-0 teams will end up with a loss, but that leaves the possibility the other five go 4-0.

Friday, September 30, 2022

Visualizing USTA League Nationals Schedules - 40 & Over 4.0 women

Next up in my series of posts visualizing the 2022 USTA League Nationals schedules is the 40 & Over 4.0 women which will be played the second weekend of Nationals.


This schedule looks reasonably random but as with others, there are some mini-pods.

Eastern, Southwest, and Texas all play each other, with Mid-Atlantic also playing Eastern and Texas.  Caribbean, Middle States, and Midwest all play each other, and then Southern, Northern, Missouri Valley, Florida, and Hawaii all play two or three matches against each other.

Visualizing USTA League Nationals Schedules - 40 & Over 4.0 men

Next up in my series of posts visualizing the 2022 USTA League Nationals schedules is the 40 & Over 4.0 men which will be played the second weekend of Nationals.


This schedule looks reasonably random but as with others, there are some mini-pods.

Southwest, Caribbean, and PNW all play each other, and Hawaii plays Southwest and PNW.  Northern, Midwest, and Mid-Atlantic all play each other, as do Middle States, Texas, and Missouri Valley

Thursday, September 29, 2022

What happens if a team can't make it to USTA League Nationals?

Let me start this post by saying my thoughts and prayers go out to all those in Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas who are having to deal with hurricane Ian.  I hope everyone is safe and those affected are able to recover quickly.

But, Nationals will go on and with keeping family and belongings safe being a higher priority than recreational tennis, and flights and other travel being disrupted, there is a chance some teams can't make it.  That begs the question of what happens to schedules and who plays who?

This has happened before where a team pulls out late after the schedule has been published, and it does get adapted.

One might think that since the schedule is random, removing a team would require redoing the whole schedule.  Thankfully, that has not been the case and the changes have been limited to a handful of teams.

For example, taking a hypothetical look at the 18 & Over 3.5 men to be played this weekend and starting tomorrow.  Should the Florida team not be able to make it here it was may happen.

Florida is scheduled to play Caribbean, Pacific Northwest, Missouri Valley, and Eastern.  So if they don't make it, these teams would all play only three matches.  The easy way to handle this is to just these teams play an additional match against each other.  PNW and MOValley already play each other so you don't want to have them play twice, but PNW could play Caribbean and MOValley play Eastern, and the schedule is otherwise preserved.

For the 3.5 women this weekend, Florida is scheduled to play Intermountain, Northern, New England, and MOValley.  Here Intermountain could play Northern and New England could play MOValley.

If two sections can't make it, it would get more complicated but a similar approach would likely be taken.

We'll see what happens, I'm sure the USTA is doing their best to help teams however they can and will adapt as needed.

Visualizing USTA League Nationals Schedules - 40 & Over 3.5 women

Next up in my series of posts visualizing the 2022 USTA League Nationals schedules is the 40 & Over 3.5 men which will be played the second weekend of Nationals.


This schedule looks reasonably random but as with others, there are some mini-pods.

Caribbean, Intermountain, and Northern all play each other, and Florida plays Caribbean and Northern.  Missouri Valley, Texas, New England, and Southwest are all in a group where they each play two of the other three, and Missouri Valley is also in a pod with NorCal and Hawaii where they each play each other.  PNW, Eastern, and SoCal also all play each other.

Visualizing USTA League Nationals Schedules - 40 & Over 3.5 men

Next up in my series of posts visualizing the 2022 USTA League Nationals schedules is the 40 & Over 3.5 men which will be played the second weekend of Nationals.


This schedule looks reasonably random but as with others, there are some mini-pods.

Southwest, Texas, and Intermountain all play each other, Middle States, NorCal, and Mid-Atlantic do as well, and Florida, Midwest, and Caribbean all do too.