Showing posts with label norcal. Show all posts
Showing posts with label norcal. Show all posts

Thursday, August 27, 2020

USTA NorCal cancels all remaining 2020 and early start 2021 leagues

USTA League play has resumed in the majority of sections in one form or another.  NorCal was an exception with the plan being to resume play in September, but the section just notified players that is no longer the case and all 2020 Adult League play has been canceled.

In addition, a few areas normally have early start leagues in the Fall for the following year, and all of those 2021 leagues have been postponed.

I'm sure this was a hard decision, but one forced by the situation with COVID-19 and current restrictions in California.  You might ask how is SoCal playing some matches?  Play there is very limited and only in some areas, and there may be local rules allowing or restricting play, and it appears NorCal thought trying to play in some areas and not others, or having to adapt as restrictions play was not in the best interest of league play.
"With state, county and city orders and guidelines changing and potentially becoming more restrictive than the last without notice, the number of temporary rule changes, continuous play adjustments and the resulting disruption would not allow for the player-friendly and inviting league experience the Adult League Department aims for."

While it appears Flex Leagues are available for play, the plan is for play to resume for 2021 at the beginning of the year, but that of course is subject to change.

Stay safe everyone.

Monday, June 8, 2020

More USTA sections lay out plans for resuming League play - PNW and NorCal

Most areas in the country a re beginning to reopen, and with that USTA sections are laying out plans for resuming USTA League play.

In my section, Pacific Northwest, all normal/advancing league play has been canceled but a Summer Social League is planned and teams are starting to form.  It is an 18 & Over Mixed league using a similar format to the recently new 18-39 Coed league, that being World Team Tennis like format.

In this format a team match consists of six no-ad set matches, first to six games wins, a 9-point tie-breaker played at 5-5.  The team match will be played on two courts with men's/women's doubles first, men's and women's singles next, and two courts of mixed doubles last.

There are a variety of WTT like rules including playing lets on serves, substitutions during a set, and coaching being allowed.  See this for the full rules including guidelines for Covid-19 conscious line-up exchanges and play with everyone serving with their own balls.

The matches will not count for ratings, and the league will run from July 17 thru August 30.  The goal is 4-6 matches per team, and a team could form with just four players.

The other big news is the league is free!  Well, sort of.  You still have to register on TennisLink and it will charge its $3 fee.  Guest fees at clubs will still apply as well.

PNW has also earlier stated that 2021 early start leagues are planned as normal for this Fall.

Northern California has also notified players of their plans for resuming play, an update from their prior plans.  They plan to open registrations for Adult 18 & Over, Adult 40 & Over, and Mixed 55 & Over at the in June.

Adult 18 & Over will replace the normal Fall Combo league and play from August 10 thru October 4, with local playoffs and even Sectionals finishing up in mid-November.  Players already registered for the earlier planned 18 & Over will receive a credit to be automatically applied to a future registration.

The 40 & Over league was in session so needs to be finished and will do so from August 3 thru 30 working towards Sectionals October 9 thru 11.

Mixed 55 & Over also needs to complete play and will do so September 14 thru October 4, Sectionals in early November.

It appears Tri-Level is planned as a weekend event in late October, and Adult 65 & Over is still TBD with a. survey forthcoming.


What is happening in your area?  Do you plan to play or sit out the remainder of 2020?

Monday, March 9, 2020

Latest update on the NorCal Facility Use Fee - Monday 9-Mar-2020

I wrote about the letter from NorCal to USTA players late last week providing background and their justification for the Facility Fee as they call it.  Players continue to be vocal, and other clubs have come out with their opposition to it too.

First, I've learned the timing of things is a bit suspicious.  While the board voted on this back in December, the playing population was not publicly notified about it or a date when it would go into effect until the letter sent the evening of Friday March 6th.  Specifically, the e-mail I saw had a timestamp of 8:56 pm.

I learned today that the deadline to withdraw a team from the upcoming 18 & Over league was Friday March 6th, so teams that have signed up did so without knowledge of the fee increase.  While it appears a player could sign-up before April 13th when the fee goes into affect and avoid it, if a player or team wanted to boycott USTA League play because of the fee, the team can no longer withdraw from the league.

The timing of this and lack of transparency about the fee until after the team withdraw deadline seems highly suspicious and it will be interesting to see if teams try to withdraw now and if they are allowed to do so.  Players and captains, please report.

Second, I wrote a few days earlier about Spare Time Sports Clubs not being on board with the fee, and I have subsequently heard that Bay Clubs, the second largest organization involved in League tennis, as well as Lifetime Activities have both written letters to members indicating they are against the fee.

Third, the Saving NorCal Leagues blog wrote up a detailed response to the letter sent to players from NorCal.  Read that here.

There is a lot to continue to monitor.  Will the fee be rescinded?  If not, will clubs refund members?  Will players boycott and participation in leagues drop?

Stay tuned, I will write more as I learn more.

Friday, March 6, 2020

The Facility Use Fee saga continues - USTA NorCal sends letter to players

USTA NorCal has apparently heard the complaints and concerns about the $25 per player per team Facility Use Fee and has sent an e-mail to presumably all players explaining the fee and why it was approved and will be implemented soon.  I have copied the text of the letter as I've seen it at the end of this post.

It is a fairly lengthy letter and I'm repeatedly reading through it to try to understand the position they are taking, but it seems the gist is that some facilities are struggling to support USTA League teams and the "Facility Fee" is being implemented to help them defray the costs and court upkeep of hosting USTA League teams.

A few of my own comments and observations:

  • The fee will go into effect on April 13th this year.  Presumably players signing up for leagues after that date will be required to pay $54 rather than $29 to join a team.
  • They say the information was leaked, but I'm not sure why they say that.  From what I saw, the board meeting minutes were published on the USTA NorCal site and they were there for all to see that dug around and found them.
  • They mention membership and league participation remaining generally stagnant, that is correct as far as USTA League goes, since 2013 there has been 20-22K unique players playing USTA League, although there is generally a slight decline from near 23K in 2013 to just over 20K in 2019.
  • They make the statement that many of their member organizations are full with Adult League play and there is no opportunity to increase revenue or grow their tennis membership.  I'm confused, having demand for something that is offered is a bad thing?  They want less demand for use of their courts?  A facility is not forced to host teams.  If they want to host fewer teams so there are more courts for members to use, that is their prerogative and I'd expect they'd do that if that made business sense for them.  If they are choosing to host teams, that is their business decision, presumably because it fills their courts and makes them money.
  • They say their charter is to grow all tennis, not just Adult Leagues, which is true, so they are choosing to tax Adult Leagues to distribute the proceeds to member clubs to solve this?   Or they are hoping the fee will reduce Adult League participation to make more courts available as a result for other non league play and programs?
  • They say some of the "mega" clubs are already charging teams a fee beyond what the USTA league fee is, and that smaller clubs that don't do this are at a disadvantage.  The solution would be for the smaller clubs to also charge such fees, them not doing it is again a business decision they can choose to make or not.  Why look to the USTA to bail them out by charging all league players an extra fee?

It seems that if demand for league play is so high, and some clubs use this to charge team fees or other fees to defray the costs and expenses of hosting teams, any facility is free to do the same and it is unclear to me at least why a fee on all players to be distributed to member organizations is the solution.

But I'll admit I'm an observer from afar and am sure I don't fully understand all of the factors at play.  But I'd lean towards letting the free market determine what happens with clubs competing for players and letting them choose how many teams to host or what fees to charge to make it make business sense.

What do you think?  Does the letter below make some salient points?  Is a facility use fee on all players to be distributed to member organizations the solution?



---- Begin letter sent to NorCal Players ----

Dear League Players,

The Directors of the USTA Northern California Board write to you to discuss the pending USTA Northern California Adult League Fee increase. This fee, better known as the "Facility Fee," was passed by the Board of Directors at our December 2019 meeting, reviewed again in February and upheld. It will go into effect April 13, 2020. In addition to the $29 fee you pay to play USTA leagues, an additional $25 will now be charged that will be distributed amongst the member organizations of USTA NorCal. 

It is correct that this proposal had been overturned in the past. However, controversial and non-controversial proposals have been heard by the board multiple times in the past as well. Procedurally, this is not unprecedented. Such is the nature of a voting body whose makeup changes over time. It is not uncommon for laws to be heard multiple times before passing as local, state and federal governments change regularly; a non-profit voting board is no different.

Regrettably, this information was leaked outside the board room prematurely causing a section-wide panic and mass confusion. As with any new program, bylaw change, or rule change, our intent is always to properly communicate these changes in a proactive manner and we regret that this goal was not accomplished.

That said, our focus with this letter is to explain the thought process behind this fee increase and clarify why it is necessary. Make no mistake, fee or price increases are never going to be popular. Over the years, USTA League players have objected to small $1 fee increases so we knew this decision was not going to be popular. But tough decisions must be made for the sake of our organization and for the member organizations that deliver our "products" to the individual members. The current league structure simply will not survive with the current fee format.

USTA membership and even league participation has fluctuated over the years but generally remains stagnant and has prevented us from growing the organization as we would like, and other programming is often sacrificed as well. Many of our organizations are full with Adult League play and no opportunity to increase revenue or grow their tennis membership. Our mission is to grow all tennis, not just Adult Leagues and our membership represents a broad base of demographics, ages, geographies etc...

We believe USTA membership continues to be one of the best values on the market, and we believe Adult League costs have been among the most competitively priced adult competition programs in the United States. We want an open dialogue with our membership but have been surprised by the number of people indicating the $29 fee was extremely high. This is definitely not true even within the organization itself. Comparing it to other products the USTA League offers, it is by far a stronger product than any other competitive tennis USTA has to offer. We recognize other Adult League products exist but despite the low cost, we do not feel any substitute offers the structural integrity our programming does, especially the expert management brought to the table by our staff.

Like any other specialty service, we must also consider the extremely high cost of living in Northern California. It can be difficult for our organization to operate under the same umbrella as other sections in the USTA where the cost of living and doing business is substantially lower. It is not unheard of for private tennis coaches to raise their rates $5, $10 sometimes even $20 a year per hour of instruction and while $25 is certainly higher, there has been no progressive increases over the years as we have seen in other parts of the sport.

Our member organization feels that same pinch when faced with the decision to continue to operate or perhaps sell to developers ready to build expensive housing or office space. It’s ironic that much of the feedback aimed at USTA NorCal in response to this fee increase has been to blame “elite clubs” when in reality is those smaller clubs are struggling to stay afloat the most, not the large mega-corporate chain clubs that are already charging their players substantial fees beyond the USTA Adult League Fee. Many of these smaller clubs have resisted such fees but have made clear a correction needs to be made.

Over the years, USTA NorCal heeded the requests of players to form new leagues that are unique to Northern California. As a result, we have more league offerings than any other section in the country. The cost of managing those leagues falls on USTA NorCal and its staff. Our goal has always been to give players the most league options possible. We believe we have achieved that overwhelmingly and will continue to do our best to offer the greatest menu of leagues in the United States.

The mission of the USTA is to grow the sport of tennis and while USTA Adult Leagues are a big part of our organization, many other offerings tend to take a back seat to the popular program, sacrificing our ability to grow our membership for the future health of our organization. There was a time that the greatest organizations in our section were home to top-notch junior programs, but because of the high demand of Adult League Tennis, that has changed dramatically. Our clubs have become home to many Adult League players, and we love that, but it regrettably pushes out those not interested in that type of competition, especially junior players or adults just looking for simple recreation and socializing on the tennis court.

At USTA, we recognize and appreciate the incredible support from individual and family members, our valued customers that play USTA tennis. However, often overlooked is that the Member Organizations that deliver our products (Leagues- Adult and Junior, Tournaments- Adult and Junior and other programs) are also our customers. A member organization may be a big corporate club chain with many facilities to choose from, a smaller independently owned club, a community tennis association, a high school or college among other options. Our organizations represent as diverse of a socioeconomic and geographic group of players as any section in the country.

These member organizations, while charging membership, rarely see any direct financial benefit from USTA leagues. In fact, most sectional and district tournaments are held at the mega-corporate clubs who are compensated for hosting, while the "routine" league matches offer no such benefit to an organization. In order to continue to offer the leagues we do and pay for the infrastructure to manage these leagues, USTA NorCal is simply not able to allocate the standard USTA league fee to these member organizations without sacrificing the service provided by our great staff. Our passionate and dedicated staff work hard to manage the league program, we know that many have professional opportunities elsewhere and we know we are blessed to have a group of people dedicated to the non-profit work supporting the sport that we all love.

By contrast, a club that offers a tournament keeps over 80% of the revenue that comes in but often finds itself the recipient of angry league players who find that not enough league offerings are available and move on to other organizations. Therefore, many clubs stop hosting tournaments and other mixer, inter-club type events.

It has become commonplace for USTA Adult League players to leave clubs and operate out of public facilities. We love our public facilities and welcome more activity on public courts, but inevitably some matches will be played at private clubs that front the cost of the courts, the maintenance, and other overhead in order accommodate these matches. In a nutshell, the club hosting a match pays for every element of a USTA match without any financial benefit and sacrifices its courts in which it could be earning revenue. In many sections in the United States, clubs charge enormous guests fees every time a visiting team comes in to play a match at their club. Imagine a simple guest fee of $10 was charged every time you played at an opposing team’s facility. This would end up being more than $25, notwithstanding the fact that many clubs may charge up to $20 or $25 per match.

There are many misconceptions floating around as a result of this matter and it’s important to set the record straight.

Misconception #1- A Facility Fee is a new idea.

There are several member organizations that surcharge its players for playing in leagues. Ironically, several are among those leading the charge to defeat this facility fee. It's worth noting that these mega-corporate club organizations have enormous influence in the board election process and have wielded such influence for years. Keeping the price of leagues very low has benefited these organizations that turn around and charge enormous fees of its league players at the expense of smaller clubs. Any insinuation that this new policy is elitist is incorrect as the goal is ultimately to level the playing field and assure that all clubs can participate in this popular program. Internally, the true push back is coming from the mega-corporate clubs that can afford to lose members who do not want to pay their high surcharges on league participation.

Several mega-corporate clubs have already been charging a minimum of $25-$40 more per player per league. Others charge hundreds and many players do not think twice about paying this fee to play at their favorite club.


Misconception #2- This is a power grab by the "Country Clubs."

Most member organizations that are "Country Clubs' are independently owned and not a part of any mega-corporate club chains which means that their voting power within the organization is substantially smaller. Ultimately, this matter gained steam as many of these smaller clubs have carried the financial weight of USTA leagues for years whereas the mega-corporate clubs have not been in a position where they cannot still carry other tennis offerings due to the large number of facilities or courts per facility.

The true financial burden of USTA leagues has not been equal across the member organization spectrum and a correction is needed to fix the decades-long structural flaws of USTA leagues. This is not an elitist movement by any stretch as we've been accused. In fact, this is a grassroots movement driven by the power of the many smaller organizations and their players that have sacrificed for decades in order to provide Adult Leagues. Many board members recognized that a change needed to be made and mobilized their efforts. Now the larger, mega-corporate clubs realize that this move has an impact on their bottom line while allowing us to treat the smaller organizations in a more fair manner. In an age of “Big Guy versus “Little Guy” political discourse, we assure you it is the smaller clubs that have been carrying the weight of this program that we are trying to help succeed so that they may continue to contribute to the organization as they have. Does this mean the mega-corporate clubs are not incredibly valuable to USTA success? Of course not! but we cannot survive on those two organizations alone.

Misconception #3- Individual clubs cannot implement their own surcharge.

This is incorrect and several mega-corporate clubs have, and some others charge guests fees. Our goal here is to level the playing field with the hope that this $25 per player, per team fee becomes the norm as opposed to an organization charging $10, $20 or more dollars every time you play a match at their facility. While we can't control what each club does, we would hope you would find it more agreeable to pay $25 extra per season as opposed to that amount 6 to 8 times per season.

Misconception #4- This is unprecedented and perhaps illegal, or not consistent with the purpose of a non-profit organization.

This new facility fee is no different than the cost of USTA tournaments. The cost of USTA tournaments, for example, takes into account all expenses and the clubs are paid for the use of their courts. Even the USTA league districts and sectionals have fees that pay for the use of the courts at these facilities, just not the actual league play.

While many of our Adult League players are not tournament regulars, this fee is consistent with other USTA products that allow a member organization to cover the cost of hosting such leagues. Other sections have similar structures that assist organizations hosting Adult Leagues and many other sections have organizations that charge guests fees on a much more regular basis than we have in NorCal.

Misconception #5- This is a money grab by the powers that be.

We see these fees as a simple cost of doing business, and we hope that these fees will help alleviate some of the pressure of hosting adult leagues such as resurfacing courts. This is hardly a financial windfall for our member organizations. Some may see a few thousand dollars per year as a result. 

After more than twenty years of play, most clubs, especially the smaller clubs, have been hurt financially by adult league play where it was once promised to be the saving grace of tennis clubs. Many players have left clubs to play in other settings (parks, schools, public facilities), generally for competitive reasons (stronger teams, more control over who is on the team, less supervision, no need to take into consideration the needs of members, facility, owners, etc… ).

While not discussed publicly every day, we are losing the support of our member organizations. Public facilities are becoming extremely expensive (it is not unheard of for public courts to charge $30-$40 per hour with a minimum number of hours guaranteed.)

Leagues cannot exist without tennis courts, nor can any other USTA tennis programs. We have seen a shrinking of the number of courts (often developed by builders) and an increase in court maintenance fees. A new court costs in the area of $50,000. Rebuilding a court after twenty years when the surface starts to fail is in the neighborhood of $50,000. Just keeping the surface up every 5-10 years costs on average between $5,000-$10,000 depending on how many cracks, etc need to be repaired. Washing the courts and maintaining the nets and equipment costs money, staff that manages a club, cleans, gardens. Those who build and maintain the courts do not work for free. We cannot continue to keep asking our smaller organizations to cover the cost of our business.

Without an immediate correction, we feel the long term sacrifice will actually fall on league players who find that only the mega-corporate clubs have the facilities and room to host Adult Leagues and tournaments, and will find themselves traveling very long distances in order to participate in a "routine" league match.

USTA NorCal and its board of directors would prefer not to have to increase pricing but in order to save the future of this program and our organization, this correction is very much needed. While this $25 fee increase may on the surface seem large, ultimately we still believe that USTA Adult Leagues are the most reasonable and valuable adult competitive sports league in the country and it's a small price to pay to assure that we have the facilities to keep it successful for decades to come.

The current board of directors is in a difficult position in which it can make an attempt to protect the future of this organization, or allow the status quo to continue, which may be less controversial now but unsustainable long-term.

We appreciate your long standing support of USTA NorCal and its Adult League program but believe that much misinformation about this issue has been disseminated and wanted to respond with factual data.

More on the NorCal Facility Use Fee - Not all facilities on-board?

The introduction of a $25 per player registration League Facility Use Fee (LFU Fee) to be implemented perhaps later in 2020 in NorCal USTA League has ruffled the feathers of players across NorCal.  So much so that there is a blog and drive/petition to have the fee rescinded before it is implemented, and as of my writing this, over 2,900 have signed the petition.

From looking at the history of how this fee garnered support over the years (see this for a run-down), it appears some board members have been pushing for this fee for a number of years, and as the board membership changed got enough members to support it and vote it through in December.  The change in board make-up appears to have added representatives from a number of private clubs/facilities that would seem to benefit from the distribution of the LFU Fee, and you'd think that all facilities would be on-board with it.

But apparently not.  At least one group of clubs, Spare Time Sports Clubs, has come out opposing the implementation of the fee writing a letter to their members (click images below at end of this article) expressing their opposition to the fee and efforts to have it rescinded.  The are (rightly IMHO) concerned about how it will affect participation in leagues and should the LFU Fee go forward in being implemented, are working to get exceptions from paying the fee for Spare Team team members and in the absence of that, will find ways to return the fee to their players from the distribution they get.

Are other facilities also opposed to the LFU Fee?  Is this actually an opportunity for clubs that are willing to refund the fee to increase membership and USTA League participation at their facilities?

Leave a comment, let us know what you are hearing from other players or the facilities you play at.


Spare Time letter to members, click to see full size




Wednesday, March 4, 2020

Are NorCal USTA League fees doubling in the near future?

As with most things in life, how much an activity or event costs is a factor in how many people are willing to pay and participate.  USTA League is no different, and there are frequent discussions over how much USTA membership costs, what discounts there may be, and what league registration fees and other associated league costs are.  If a player feels costs have gotten to a point that they are no longer getting value and/or if there are alternatives to play tennis or participate in other activities, players may stop playing in leagues or let their USTA membership lapse.

In light of that, in the past few days I've received e-mails and seen discussions about a vote by the NorCal USTA Board that appears to call for a "Facility Use Fee" to be added to all league registrations.  The meeting minutes are not terribly descriptive on details of how/when it will be rolled out or how the funds will be used, but show that a vote was taken at the board meeting in December, 2019 where adding a $25 "Facility Use Fee" was passed 9-7.

2020 league have begun in NorCal and the league registration fee was $29, up $1 from last year, so it does not appear this fee has kicked in yet.  But rumors are it will later in 2020, perhaps for the 18 & Over Mixed and 55 & Over Adult seasons.

Now, as you might imagine, as word of this has gotten out to players, they are none too happy.  In fact, a petition has been started to revoke the fee, and a Saving NorCal Leagues blog started with more information about how this all transpired.

If the history and background presented on that site are accurate, it does all seem a bit suspicious and questionable how an 86% increase in league fees would be approved after it had been repeatedly voted down in past years and from all indications, league staff, who are in touch with the players/captains and have a pulse on what makes sense and players will bear, were opposed to it.

Additionally, at least some board members appear to be from USTA member facilities that will benefit from a fee being collected and distributed to their facilities, which screams conflict of interest.

Now, the fee has not been implemented yet and I suppose it is possible it never will be, perhaps due to the response it is now getting.  It is also possible, although I've seen no indication of this, that the collection of the fee would result in the reduction or elimination of court fees being paid today at member facilities, and so the net effect will not be as large, at least for some players, as it appears (this is probably my over optimistic pipe dream).

I have not seen any details or explanation of how the proceeds will be used, so it is also possible the they will go towards improving facilities and keeping some open that might otherwise have to close or be converted for other uses, and not just line the pockets of private clubs.  Note however that this is not a blanket fund for all facilities, but just those that are USTA member facilities, and I'm not sure how many (or how few) there are in NorCal.  If there are very few, this fee could be going to a small number of facilities.

Regardless, an 86% increase in league fees seems a bit out of line and could have a serious impact on league participation.  I can't imagine that every player will willingly incur the cost and some may opt to not play USTA League, and perhaps drop their USTA membership as well as a result.  It feels like implementing this fee could bite NorCal USTA, and even USTA National, in the butt if they aren't careful.

If you are a NorCal USTA League player, what have you heard and what do you think?

Regardless of where you play, what do you think appropriate fees are to register for and play in a recreational tennis league?

Friday, January 3, 2020

NorCal has new USTA League roster limit rule for 2020 overturned by National

For the 2020 USTA League season, Northern California instituted some new rules regarding how many players with various rating types could be on the same team.

Basically, the rule limits how many self-rates, appeals, and DQ'd players can be on a roster.  For example for most Adult teams playing 4 or more courts for a match, just 5 total players with an S, A, or D could be on the same team.

I believe these rules were instituted to limit the creation of super teams loaded with players who appealed down or are self-rates, and to limit the ability of these teams to field more or less the same team in multiple areas.

The problem exists because of the large population in the Bay Area and proximity of areas resulting in a good chance of 10 or more players in the same or adjacent areas being able to appeal down, and then forming effectively the same team in multiple areas.  Or brand new teams are formed with a majority of players being self-rated and with the USTA's DQ rules being perhaps too lenient, it isn't a good look when established players have no shot of advancing to playoffs when predominantly self-rated ones do, and those teams replicate in multiple areas to boot.

One could make the argument that both of these situations, allowing more or less the same "super" team to play in 2, 3, or more areas, or teams loaded with self-rates, isn't fair to the other players trying to advance to playoffs.

I'm sure there are varied opinions on whether this new rule is fair or not, but apparently it ran afoul of National regulations and so they are being removed ...

... except ...

Some areas in NorCal (Reno) run their 40 & Over Adult and Mixed as early start leagues, so by the time this decision was made, those had already played.  So to be fair to those teams, the rest of the NorCal teams playing their 40 & Over leagues later will have to abide by the new rules as well.  But all other divisions will not be bound by the new rules.

For those interested, here is the actual language from the new, now partially defunct, rules:
1.04D(4)a All Adult and Mixed Division team rosters at the 3.0 or combined 6.0 and 6.5 NTRP levels may include up to six (6) players with a Self-rating (S), Appealed (A), Dynamically Disqualified or Promoted (D).

1.04D(4)b In Adult and Mixed Divisions at the 3.5, 4,0, 4.5, 4.5+ or combined 7.0, 7.5, 8.0, 8.5, 9.0, 9.5 and 10.0 NTRP level utilizing three individual matches within a team match, a team roster may include up to three (3) players with a Self-rating (S), Appealed (A), Dynamically Disqualified or Promoted (D).

1.04D(4)c In Adult Divisions at the 3.5, 4,0, 4.5, 4.5+ NTRP level utilizing four or more individual matches within a team match, a team roster may include up to five (5) players with a Self-rating (S), Appealed (A), Dynamically Disqualified or Promoted (D).

And here is the National rule the above runs afoul of:
1.04D(4) Team. A team shall consist of players eligible to compete at a specific NTRP level of competition in accordance with the following table. A Section may limit the number of players on a team who have an individual NTRP level lower than the team NTRP level. A Section may also limit the number of players who appear on a team roster, but may not have fewer than the minimum number of players as shown in the following table:

Apparently the interpretation of the National rule is that a section is not allowed to limit the number of players with a rating type on a team.

What do you think?  Was NorCal trying to do the right thing by instituting limits and would make for fairer competition?  Or limits like these aren't fair and should never be in place?

Wednesday, June 12, 2019

NorCal USTA Un-flighted Round Robin - What should have been expected?

I just wrote about NorCal using the new un-flighted round-robin format for 40 & Over Districts last month where a 4.0 mens team went undefeated and is not going to Sectionals as there were four others and they finished 5th.

That seems like a bad thing, so I went about researching if this was a freak occurrence, or if it could have been known in advance that it was likely to happen.

I'll say up front, just looking at a situation where there are 22 teams, each only playing 3 matches against random opponents, it screams to me that it was likely for there to be a lot of undefeated teams, but let's do some real analysis to see just how likely.

To do this, I'm using my Flight Simulation Report that uses my Estimated Dynamic NTRP Ratings for the players on each team to go through one million simulations of each team's schedule ,with some random variability into how each team will do, tallying up what the most likely record will be for each team and what the standings will be.  Also, as part of doing this, I can look at how often specific situations occur, like what percentage of the time there are varying numbers of undefeated teams.

So what did it all say?


The simulation said the most likely resulting records would have 4 teams all 3-0 which would have been nice and clean.  The 4 teams in this most likely scenario were San Carlos, Bay Club, Seascape, and Walnut Creek and it turns out 3 of these teams did all finish undefeated.  So the simulation isn't too bad!

The chances of any 4 teams finishing undefeated was 41%, so pretty likely, but a lot of room for other scenarios.  Here is how the others were predicted:
  • Three - 20%
  • Four - 41%
  • Five - 30%
  • Six - 5%
  • Seven - 0.3%
  • Eight - 0.01%
Yes folks, with this format and the schedule they had, there was the possibility of eight (8) teams ending up undefeated!  Yes, it is a very slim chance, and similarly for seven, but still technically possible.

The bigger thing is that a still substantial six undefeated had a 5% chance, meaning if you hold this event 20 times it is likely that you'd have six undefeated teams once.  Having a format where that is reasonably possible is just silly!

The chance of five undefeated was an even higher 30%, nearly as likely as the most likely scenario of four undefeated.  This is in fact what happened and clearly it was not a freak occurrence but should have been reasonably expected it could happen.  Add up the chances of five or more and you are over 33%, so this is saying one of these was expected to occur in one of every three times the event would be played.

With this many teams playing just three matches, the chances of a tie for fourth place (the last spot advancing to Sectionals) is very high, and when it occurs, it is more often that not going to be very big.  Basically any time there aren't exactly four undefeated, you are going to have a large tie at 2-1.  The number of teams tied could in theory be as large as 16, but is more typically expected to be between 5 and 10 teams, still very big and highlighting the inadequacies of the current tie-breakers, especially when just three matches are played as that gives very little information to differentiate with.

What about other flights?

The women's 4.0 flight had 20 teams and fortunately only had three undefeated teams.  But what did the simulation say was likely?

Here are the chances:
  • Three - 36%
  • Four - 38%
  • Five - 11%
  • Six - 1.3%
  • Seven - 0.05%
  • Eight - 3 of the million scenarios
We see the chances of of "bad" situations is quite a bit lower, this is in part to having two fewer teams, but also the strength of the teams and how the schedule was laid out.  Still, there was a significant chance, 12+%, of five or more teams being undefeated even if one of the more likely three actually occurred.  Hold this even eight times it is likely that once you will have a "situation".

Another 20 team flight was the 3.5 women.  This ended up having a nice and clean four undefeated teams, but what were the possibilities?
  • Three - 38%
  • Four - 35%
  • Five - 10%
  • Six - 0.7%
  • Seven - 0.01%
  • Eight - 1 of the million scenarios
This is quite similar to the women's 4.0 flight, and one of the most likely scenarios occurred.  But there was still an 11+% chance of five or more, so it is likely to happen one of every nine times.

In fact, there was a team that was 2-1 in 5th place that lost a team match 3-2 on a super tie-break loss.  Had they won that super tie-break, there would have been five undefeated teams and controversy would ensue again.

I did not go through the other flights, there were fewer teams there so less chance of problems occurring, although the chances were by no means zero.

I think the above shows though that it was a little short-sighted to implement this format the way they did.  So many teams playing un-flighted round-robin against only three opponents is ripe for this to happen and it seems having a format planned with these problems built in is not really fair to the participants.

Simply playing four matches per team would have significantly improved things and reduced, but not eliminated, the chances.  I wonder why that wasn't done?

What do you think?

NorCal USTA uses un-flighted round-robin for Districts, undefeated team doesn't advance!

I recently wrote that the new format used for Nationals last year, un-flight round-robin, is starting to be used for other earlier rounds of playoffs.  Several states in Southern are using it, but I also noticed that Northern California used it for their Districts last month and taking a closer look, found some interesting situations.

Specifically, Nationals generally has 17 teams (one per section) and each team playing 4 matches, and this is enough to have some potential disasters such as very large groups of teams going into standings tie-breakers to see who advances, or even undefeated teams not advancing.

NorCal appears to have used this format with as many as 22 (!) teams and each team only playing 3 matches.  In my mind, this is a recipe for disaster as with that many teams, there is no way to avoid the possibility of 5 (or more) undefeated teams (and only 4 move on to Sectionals), and it is hard to get meaningful differentiation in the standings playing only 3 matches, especially given teams would have wildly different strengths of schedule.

But instead of me just raising the warning flag, let's take a look and see what actually happened.

Men's 4.0

This flight had a whopping 22 teams and disaster did occur here with five teams finishing undefeated at 3-0 and it appears, one of them not advancing on to Sectionals.  Teams 3 thru 5 were all tied at 10-5 on courts and they obviously didn't play each other, so it went to sets lost and one team had lost 13 sets vs 12 and 11 for the other two teams, so they were the one left out.  FWIW, my proposal I submitted to the USTA of using sets won/lost differential would have yielded the same order in this case.

But this is still brutal for the team that is left out.  You go to Districts and don't lose a team match, and aren't going on to Sectionals.  They very well could have had a tougher schedule than the other four teams and that is why they lost an extra court or set or two.  It is hard to understand why a format would be chosen like this with the likelihood of this happening so high.

Update: See this where I looked at the possible and expected scenarios for this scenario and a few other flights.

Men's 3.5

"Only" 18 teams and the standings ended up with three undefeated teams at 3-0 and a seven way tie for the fourth spot at 2-1.  This meant the flawed tie-breakers used kicked in, although in this case one team had a clearly better courts record at 12-3 vs the next best 9-6, so they advanced.

Men's 4.5+

Just 14 teams, three finished 3-0 with a three-way tie for the fourth spot.  One team had a one court better record on courts won/lost so they advanced, but is interesting that they had the same sets lost as the fifth place team and actually lost more games, so would have lost out on the flawed tie-breaker had it gotten to that point.

Men's 3.0

Just 12 teams, the chances of a situation with undefeated teams not really there, but there was a four way tie for third with the teams finishing 4th/5th tied on courts at 8-7, but one lost one more set (and won fewer too) so did not advance.

Women's 4.0

A good sized 20 teams in the flight and three undefeated teams at 3-0 leaving an eight way tie for fourth.  Worse, five of these teams were tied on courts at 9-6.  One team had lost one fewer set, so they were the team that advanced.

Women's 3.5

Also 20 teams in the flight and they lucked out with four 4-0 teams advancing.  There was a big seven-way tie for fifth giving an idea what kind of tie-breaker could have come into play.

Women's 3.0

There were 16 teams, just two went undefeated with a six-way tie for third at 2-1.  Two teams were both 10-5 on courts with the others behind so these two advanced.

Women's 4.5+

Just 14 teams, three teams undefeated with a three-way tie at 2-1 for fourth, one of those teams having a better courts won/lost record.


So there was not controversy at every level, but we did have (to my knowledge) the first case of an undefeated team being left out in this format, and several other very large tie-breaks where strength of schedule played a key role in who advanced since it came down to just a single court or even set.

I wonder if the USTA/NorCal really gave any thought to the possibility of sending an undefeated team home?  It was almost inevitable with this many teams and playing just three matches doesn't give much data to differentiate on and is very susceptible to strong/weak schedules skewing things.  I would hope they did, but then they apparently decided they were ok with it.

What do you think?  Is so many teams and so few matches taking this format too far?  Did you play at NorCal Districts and have first hand experience or feedback?

Wednesday, May 2, 2018

Upcoming USTA League playoffs - Georgia States and NorCal Districts/Sectionals

It is May, and that means more sections/districts/states are getting to the playoff part of some seasons.  These are usually leagues that started in January/February and so are in areas where outdoor play can begin then or where advancing leagues are played indoors.

An example of the latter is the Pacific Northwest where Seattle held its 40 & over local playoffs a few weeks ago, and in the next couple weekends some examples of the latter are holding state/district playoffs.

Georgia is an example of a warm weather state and the next two weekends find their 18 & over league States being played this weekend in Macon and next weekend in Rome.  These are often hard fought playoffs with early start teams in the mix that may have players bumped up at 2017 year-end still eligible to play.  Some of these early start teams had their regular season as long as last Spring so there is ample time to improve but also perhaps hard to keep teams together that long.

Northern California also plays year-round outside and their 40 & over Districts are also being held this weekend May 4-6.  Not only that, Sectionals follow right away being held two weeks later, May 18-20.  So we'll have teams qualified for Nationals before the end of the month!

With playoffs comes facing teams and players you may not be familiar with.  Local leagues typically have a lot of the same players year to year and captains know tendencies and what to expect so line-up decisions aren't that hard.  But come playoffs, captains likely don't what to expect.  Sure, seasoned captains that have been there before tend to go back, but the make-up of their teams changes and scouting opponents becomes important.

The flight reports I can generate are a great tool for doing this scouting as they give you a great overview of a team with both the average dynamic rating of their full roster, the average dynamic rating of their top-8 players, and a summary showing the average rating played by court for each team.  All of this allows captains to know who the strongest/weakest teams are, and specifically where a team is strongest, all helping them determine line-ups for each match balancing playing time and giving the team the best chance of winning.

If anyone is interested in a report, contact me.